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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Will responded on "Fox News Sunday," saying: "He has an advantage on me, because he can say everything he knows about any subject in 140 characters and I can't."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Another conservative trump doesn't need I guess.
    I guess Trump Doesn't need Conservatives,
    he's going to get "moderates" and people from the left to support him then ..right?
    and those former non-voters are going to register in droves too right?
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-28-2016 at 11:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I guess Trump Doesn't need Conservatives,
    he's going to get "moderates" and people from the left to support him then ..right?
    and those former non-voters are going to register in droves too right?
    Just who tha hell told you that he was a true conservative?
    Best look at his history, plenty of damn Rino's on our side hoss.
    I know, the stock reply is who are you to cite what a real conservative is??
    As a true conservative I know when some son of a bitch is not..-OK?
    And that bastard never was-- did you ever see me cite anything the lying piece shit ever said??
    No you have not and there (in his recent action) is the reason why.
    IF WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR THE BASTARD WOULD BE SHOT FOR WHAT HE JUST DID..
    Showed his true colors--give them the right circumstance and they always do!!
    I'd knock that son of a bitch out if he ever stepped onto my property.
    He has shown exactly what he always was.. And he did so trying to bring others in the fold to defeat Trump.
    Now-- Take damn guess who that helps!
    Thats right--it helps Hillary--bastard true colors shown..-Tyr
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    George Will is a conservative, if one means limited government and more freedoms for the individual. Always has and likely always will. You don't have to agree with his conservatism, it's obvious he doesn't see Trump as conservative. I think there will always be differences in definitions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    What kind of ratings Did they get ?
    Hell...I don't know! I don't give a hoot about ratings to be honest.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Hell...I don't know! I don't give a hoot about ratings to be honest.
    Me neither. But networks do and that is why we have "shock jocks" if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Just who tha hell told you that he was a true conservative?
    Best look at his history, plenty of damn Rino's on our side hoss.
    I know, the stock reply is who are you to cite what a real conservative is??
    As a true conservative I know when some son of a bitch is not..-OK?
    And that bastard never was-- did you ever see me cite anything the lying piece shit ever said??
    No you have not and there (in his recent action) is the reason why.
    IF WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR THE BASTARD WOULD BE SHOT FOR WHAT HE JUST DID..
    Showed his true colors--give them the right circumstance and they always do!!
    I'd knock that son of a bitch out if he ever stepped onto my property.
    He has shown exactly what he always was.. And he did so trying to bring others in the fold to defeat Trump.
    Now-- Take damn guess who that helps!
    Thats right--it helps Hillary--bastard true colors shown..-Tyr
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    Will and others say Trump's changed the party, even made it into a 3rd party almost. The thing is
    he has not made it more conservative, but less.
    He hasn't made it more libertarian, but less.
    He hasn't made it more constitutional, but less
    He hasn't made it more socially conservative, but less.
    He hasn't made it more inclusive, but less.
    In fact he's lead it all by making it less inclusive.

    the other thing he's lead with (besides low insults) is claiming he's not establishment. But most of his proposals are just as RINO as the establishment's have been for the past 20 years. He just says he's "anti-establishment" because he's not accountable to the Banks/BigBiz like the other candidates.
    But many rank and file conservatives don't even ADMIT that crony capitalism is a problem. But Some republicans/conservatives have practically told me that Business and BIG Business and the Banks have done no wrong. So i'm not sure why "anti-establishment" is a virtue on that front now. 4 years ago i thought Rs were saying that "anti-establishment" meant MORE/REAL conservative candidates and not RINO or Neo-Con.

    But it just looks like it really means someone who'll "build a wall" , ban muslims and not "talk PC".
    Any other conservative ideas are negotiable.
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-28-2016 at 05:36 PM.
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    Trump has not made anything yet. He is not in control or a position of control at the present time.
    He'd have to be seated to do that.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Will and others say Trump's changed the party, even made it into a 3rd party almost. The thing is
    he has not made it more conservative, but less.
    He hasn't made it more libertarian, but less.
    He hasn't made it more constitutional, but less
    He hasn't made it more socially conservative, but less.
    He hasn't made it more inclusive, but less.
    In fact he's lead it all by making it less inclusive.

    the other thing he's lead with (besides low insults) is claiming he's not establishment. But most of his proposals are just as RINO as the establishment's have been for the past 20 years. He just says he's "anti-establishment" because he's not accountable to the Banks/BigBiz like the other candidates.
    But many rank and file conservatives don't even ADMIT that crony capitalism is a problem. But Some republicans/conservatives have practically told me that Business and BIG Business and the Banks have done no wrong. So i'm not sure why "anti-establishment" is a virtue on that front now. 4 years ago i thought Rs were saying that "anti-establishment" meant MORE/REAL conservative candidates and not RINO or Neo-Con.

    But it just looks like it really means someone who'll "build a wall" , ban muslims and not "talk PC".
    Any other conservative ideas are negotiable.


    Logical, slightly intelligent people know....Trump hasn't done anything. Think about it. The people.... millions of them, voted for Trump. Are they all as wrong as you say He is???
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Trump has not made anything yet. He is not in control or a position of control at the present time.
    He'd have to be seated to do that.
    Of course he has. He's now the presumptive nominee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Of course he has. He's now the presumptive nominee.


    fj. How is that possible? Reminding me of the way everybody blamed Bush for 911. Trump hasn't any control over being the nominee. The people who voted for him in the primaries did the work.

    Anyhow. The word 'Presumptive' is much like using 'Assume'. And most of us know what that really means.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
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