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    Default Illegal alien who murdered three at Oregon farm, had been deported 6 times

    No, we don't need a wall. Illegal aliens we deport won't come back and cause any further trouble. We told them it would be illegal, of course.

    So there would be no advantage to building a wall on our southern border.

    Would there?

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    Officials: Man held in Oregon farm shooting deported 6 times

    by GILLIAN FLACCUS
    July 1, 2016

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A Mexican national charged with aggravated murder in the shooting deaths of three people at a rural Oregon blueberry farm had been deported six times, most recently in 2013, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Bonifacio Oseguera-Gonzalez, 29, has no significant prior criminal convictions, but ICE asked Oregon authorities to turn him over to them if he's released from custody in the current case, the agency said in a statement to The Associated Press on Friday.

    Oseguera-Gonzalez pleaded not guilty to three counts of aggravated murder and one count of attempted murder Tuesday in Marion County Superior Court. His attorney, Deborah Burdzik, did not immediately return a call seeking comment about his immigration status.

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump tweeted about the case Friday, saying the suspect "should have never been here."

    Two men who lived at the blueberry farm in the Willamette Valley town of Woodburn, in northwest Oregon, died at the scene of Monday's shooting. The third victim, the girlfriend of another resident who was not home at the time, was pronounced dead at a hospital. A third man was seriously wounded but survived and is able to speak with investigators.

    The Oregon State Police arrested Oseguera-Gonzalez a few hours later on Interstate 84 in the Columbia River Gorge, about 100 miles northeast of Woodburn. He acknowledged to authorities in an interview that he shot four people, according to a probable cause statement.

    The victims were identified as Ruben Rigoberto-Reyes, 60; Edmundo Amaro-Bajonero, 26; and Katie Gildersleeve, 30, of Logsden.

    Authorities have released few details about the case, including the relationship between Oseguera-Gonzalez and the victims, and have declined to specify a motive.
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    There is already a large wall on part of the Texas border. Doesn't seem to stop anyone.
    Instead of a wall, we need a larger and better paid army of Border Patrol agents.

    In reality, the problem is not ours. It's in Mexico. Where jobs pay little, unemployment is increasing, corruption is rampant and the drug cartels run the country.
    As long as there are employers willing to hire illegals, they will find some way to get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    There is already a large wall on part of the Texas border. Doesn't seem to stop anyone.
    Next little gabby will be telling us that most of the hull of the Titanic was intact and watertight after it hit the iceberg, but somehow it didn't seem to stop the ship from sinking..... and therefore ships don't need hulls, just a large army of people with buckets, baling as fast as they can.

    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Where does an illegal with a criminal background get a gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Where does an illegal with a criminal background get a gun?
    Are trying to display bottomless, obtuse naivete?

    Or do you just need one for a couple of quick chores?
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Where does an illegal with a criminal background get a gun?
    Illegally, of course. So many ways to get them under the table that all the new 'gun laws' cannot fix.
    When will liberals understand it is not the instrument, but the person using it?
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Illegally, of course. So many ways to get them under the table that all the new 'gun laws' cannot fix.
    When will liberals understand it is not the instrument, but the person using it?
    Precisely. We in the UK have some of the most stringent anti-gun laws to be found anywhere on the planet. Doesn't stop criminals from getting their hands on guns, though.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Illegally, of course. So many ways to get them under the table that all the new 'gun laws' cannot fix.
    Precisely! You can't solve the gun problem by banning guns. And you can't solve the immigration problem by banning immigrants.
    Our short-sighted politicians and pundits like blaming illegal immigration for all the country's problems, yet conveniently overlook why they are here in the first place. It's like spilling syrup on the floor and getting angry when bugs start to appear.
    Imagine you live in Mexico. You earn $2 an hour, but half of it goes for "protection." Or you can cross the border and make $8 an hour, and you get to keep all of it. Your employer benefits from not having to pay more for American labor.
    Politicians don't want to press for sanctions on employers. That is a good way to lose votes. So they keep stepping on ants instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
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    Politicians don't want to press for sanctions on employers. That is a good way to lose votes. So they keep stepping on ants instead.
    Sanctions on employers were begun. This administration does not see fit to enforce them.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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