Poll: Did the Biblical Flood really occur?

[glockmail]

Are these supposed to be arguments for a global or regional flood?

It was an agument related to the quoted portion of your post.

[glockmail]

Evidence for your answers would be??

They are all reasonable explanations to the issues that you raised.

[Missileman]

It was an agument related to the quoted portion of your post.

Your answer doesn't explain the cultural amnesia that would have to occurred if there were truly a global flood and all human beings are now direct descendents of the Riders of the Last Ark.

[glockmail]

Your answer still ignores the science behind this... .Water always seeks its own levels.... (see illustration above)....
Regardless of how tall or short the mountains, the water would still need some sort of retainer to keep it localized...

Actually flooding happens in isolated regions all the time through dynamic processes, such as tides, wind, and flow.

You know I find it funny that people want scientific explanations of biblical events, then when adequately explained, some of these same people claim the science is evidence that the events were not caused by God.

[glockmail]

Your answer doesn't explain the cultural amnesia that would have to occurred if there were truly a global flood and all human beings are now direct descendents of the Riders of the Last Ark.

I've researched my family history and am amazed at the cultural amnesia that has occurred over just a few centuries. Imagine what can be forgotten without the benefit of written language. Why, even theories of Greek and Roman medicine could have been lost. Oh, wait, they have.

[Missileman]

Actually flooding happens in isolated regions all the time through dynamic processes, such as tides, wind, and flow.

You know I find it funny that people want scientific explanations of biblical events, then when adequately explained, some of these same people claim the science is evidence that the events were not caused by God.

A scientific (natural) explanation takes the wind out of any supernatural causation arguments. If it can happen naturally, there's no reason to believe a deity had anything to do with it.

[Missileman]

I've researched my family history and am amazed at the cultural amnesia that has occurred over just a few centuries. Imagine what can be forgotten without the benefit of written language. Why, even theories of Greek and Roman medicine could have been lost. Oh, wait, they have.

Modifications resulting from contact with other cultures is a totally different matter than migrating and taking your (only) culture with you.

[-Cp]

Actually flooding happens in isolated regions all the time through dynamic processes, such as tides, wind, and flow.

You know I find it funny that people want scientific explanations of biblical events, then when adequately explained, some of these same people claim the science is evidence that the events were not caused by God.

That answer - my friend - has nothing to do what we're discuessing - just me and you...

You said you believe it was a regional flood which also means you believe it was of a large enough scale to warrant an ark for the safety of noah and the animals... if that's the case.. the flood would've had no feasable way to only be located in one regional area....

Regardless of the mountain height, we both agree (I assume) that the water was at least 8 meters over the highest peaks... if that's the case, what would've prevented it from flooding into the surrounding areas?

[JohnDoe]

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Dove Sent Forth from the Ark by Gustave DoréThe global flood or flood of Noah is an event recorded in ancient histories in various forms across cultures worldwide. The entire world was covered with water as divine punishment, and only a small number of humans and animals survived. The account in Genesis is the best known and most detailed account, but the same events are described in the Islamic Qur'an, the Book of Jubilees, and the Book of Enoch. Direct references occur in the Critias and Timaeus of Plato, and the ancient Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh.

The following elements are common to nearly all the accounts:

A flood was sent by the divine to punish mankind.
A family of people and a number of animals were spared from the flood in a boat.
All life on earth outside the boat or not native to the water was destroyed.
The residents of the boat repopulated the whole earth.

that's the story, and I'm sticking with it!

[glockmail]

That answer - my friend - has nothing to do what we're discuessing - just me and you...

You said you believe it was a regional flood which also means you believe it was of a large enough scale to warrant an ark for the safety of noah and the animals... if that's the case.. the flood would've had no feasable way to only be located in one regional area....

Regardless of the mountain height, we both agree (I assume) that the water was at least 8 meters over the highest peaks... if that's the case, what would've prevented it from flooding into the surrounding areas?

The mountain height in the region could have been much lower than te height of nearby mountains. Perhaps He increased gravitational pull of the moon or some ther object over the region. Perhaps He contained the water by wind. Perhaps He contained it in a shot glass.

[glockmail]

A scientific (natural) explanation takes the wind out of any supernatural causation arguments. If it can happen naturally, there's no reason to believe a deity had anything to do with it.

Obviously you've never witnessed the birth of a child.

[mrg666]

history displays sparodic weather conditions some adverse over the past few hundred years (cant blame global warming)
this is one of those occurences actual records werent kept so the next best thing and like a rumour it got better and better
or bigger and bigger

[Lightning Waltz]

Obviously you've never witnessed the birth of a child.

Child birth is supernatural?

[glockmail]

Child birth is supernatural?

Yup.

[Missileman]

Obviously you've never witnessed the birth of a child.

So child birth doesn't occur without divine intervention? If God's delivering all the babies, what's up with all of the deliveries that don't go perfectly?