Originally Posted by
OCA
Tsk tsk tsk.......muddying and deflecting are poor debating tactics.
My points are crystal clear and as tight as Fort Knox.
Again please try and prove that homosexuality is normal and natural among HUMAN BEINGS.
The only point that is crystal clear and tight as Fort Knox is the one at the top of your dunce cap. But, because you good enough to FINALLY define your terms, I'll answer your question, based on your terms.
Again, I think your definitions have problems....but, we'll put it to the test.
Normal -- since this is society decided standard. Just as slavery was once deemed socially acceptable, today, gays are not socially acceptable.
Under your definition, gays are not normal. Of course, my response would be, "so what?".
Natural -- I'm still confused on this one. You bring up analogies about birds flying south as natural, but don't like analogies about homosexuality being natural in the animal world, as a whole.
Your definition of "natural" seems to include that people are thinking things and "should know better" than to do what animals do.
So, is "natural" what comes to people through their animal instincts, or is it what they choose to do that doesn't necessarily follow nature? Hard to tell.
You also point to biology of people and make the astounding claim that members of the opposiste sex are attracted to one another at birth (but refuse to back up this claim).
Well, sex wasn't just made for procreation, obviously. So, it's hard to accept your "biology of how people work", argument. And all of your other claims, you haven't backed up.
Frankly, for this one, your definition is so confused that I'm not able to make heads or tails of it. I'm sure that YOU believe that homosexuality isn't natural by your definition...but your definition is so confused, I can't objectively say either way.
Man is a marvelous curiosity … he thinks he is the Creator's pet … he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea.
-- Mark Twain