Debate Monday

[Black Diamond]

Trump didn't do well..



At all.

[hjmick]

It was almost two years before he expressed any concerns about the war...


Why is that a bad thing Donald?

[Black Diamond]

It was almost two years before he expressed any concerns about the war...


Why is that a bad thing Donald?

Because then there is no difference between Clinton's and Trump's judgement

[Abbey Marie]

We both know that it's gonna be brought out again tonight, but how many times do we need to hear the same responses and counter points on subjects that we've heard so many times already unless there is something new about them brought up. Most if not all who will be watching tonight already rendered our verdict and I want to hear about the future and solutions about todays problems.

I've already stated 3 reasons why.

[Abbey Marie]

FOR GOD'S SAKE SHUT UP!


It's been proven over and over that he supported the invasion of Iraq! SHUT UP! It's okay to have supported it before you didn't...

Right at that time, I heard and saw him MYSELF say he was against the war. I believe it was on Charlie Rose.

[NightTrain]

Some pretty nice body shots landed by both. Trump knocked her off her attacks with counters and interjected them in a timely fashion.

I don't think there was a clear winner.

[Black Diamond]

Some pretty nice body shots landed by both. Trump knocked her off her attacks with counters and interjected them in a timely fashion.

I don't think there was a clear winner.

I would certainly settle for that. That would be a win

[Black Diamond]

Right at that time, I heard and saw him MYSELF say he was against the war. I believe it was on Charlie Rose.

He's been against it as far back as I can remember.

[Russ]

Some pretty nice body shots landed by both. Trump knocked her off her attacks with counters and interjected them in a timely fashion.

I don't think there was a clear winner.

I agree. No clear winner.

And I will give Lester Holt credit for not being overtly partisan.

[Russ]

I made the mistake of deciding to take a sip of Scotch every time Hillary started a sentence with "I have a plan for that..." and now I'm not sure if I can go to work tomorrow.

Hillary has created more plans than Christopher Wren, but has never actually acted on one.

[Drummond]

I've just watched the BBC's relaying of the debate over here in the UK.

Trump made essentially the same point about a vacuum being left in Iraq that I have, time and again.

Obama withdrew troops from Iraq (.. AND he advertised his intentions, years in advance !). Withdrawing them left a vacuum which ISIS filled.

Trump made the thoroughly meritorious point that ISIS has the presence and the power it does in Iraq today because of the bad withdrawal decision made years earlier. And from what I heard from Clinton, she had no good answer to give in response to that.

Trump did well in that part of the debate (and in others). He can gain satisfaction from his performance tonight.

[Perianne]

????

Sometimes I think I am the only one seeing certain things. But then I ran across this:

At tonight’s debate, Donald Trump faced off not just against Hillary Clinton, but against moderator Lester Holt.


The game of two-on-one saw Holt ask no questions about:

• Hillary’s emails
• Benghazi
• The Clinton Foundation

While ignoring these issues, Holt grilled Trump on stop-and-frisk, the birther story, his comments about women, his many bankruptcies, why he hasn’t released his tax returns — and a host of other issues the media sees as unfriendly to the Republican candidate.


Holt also repeatedly attempted to “fact check” on some of Trump’s positions, such as his claim to have opposed the Iraq War from the beginning. Holt interrupted Trump several times to interject, but rarely succeeded (and may have come across as weak and impotent).

http://heatst.com/politics/lester-ho...third-debater/

And more, here.

[jimnyc]

True to my word, I really didn't "watch" the debate last night. I watched football and switched over at times. I watched highlights and read a ton before bed last night. Now I've been up since 3:30am reading a ton more. I have to wonder what was asked about my interests, and it doesn't seem like much of it.

What subjects/questions would you like to hear - that you don't think you'll hear? I think Hillary gets off light in this department.

Bill, and his never ending "dicking bimbos", and why does she support such, or ignore it?
The few alleged rapes?
Benghazi again, and why she lied to the specific mother in question?
There are endless questions that can be asked about her endless lies she's been busted in about her email server.
Her and Bill ripping off the WH on the way out - and their damaging as well.
Clinton Foundation - pay for play
Does she truly not understand classified material?
Her health, of which has been a huge factor in the past month
Her and her teams lying again about her health
Her lying in general, WHY should she be trusted when busted lying so many times

That it? Probably MUCH more, but she probably won't answer anyway, at least not a one truthfully.

I saw that Trump mentioned he would release tax crap if Hillary released 30,000+ emails that she deleted. I saw that he briefly mentioned something about her health.

Anything else?

VERY weak debate from what I saw, and from what I'm reading. No major fuckups from Trump, but nothing to write home about either. Same for Clinton. Glad I didn't watch!! Will have to wait and see if the polls see any difference from it at all.

[jimnyc]

Sometimes I think I am the only one seeing certain things. But then I ran across this:



http://heatst.com/politics/lester-ho...third-debater/

And more, here.

I guess briefly what I just touched upon. He DEFINITELY should have asked such stuff, IMO. Trump also should have pushed at her on such, since it appears he was cutting her off, should have made it worth while.

[Noir]

My expectations for the debate on Monday:

1. Hillary will want to be sitting down
2. Hillary will want to take frequent breaks off-stage. I understand there will be no commercial breaks, so I'm looking forward to seeing how she tries to do this.
3. The moderator Lester Holt will frequently try to challenge Trump on facts but will challenge Hillary little or not at all.
4. Liberal media outlets (MSNBC, Politico, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN) will immediately declare that "it looks like Hillary won it", no matter how the debate goes.
5. There will be some well-known liberal person(s) sitting in the front row trying to cheer for Hillary.


Two intriguing questions about the debate:
1. Will Hillary make it through the debate without falling over, or her eyes glazing over, or making chicken-clucking motions with her head when a flash goes off?
2. What's the over/under on how many times Hillary calls Trump a name, like "____-ist" or "____-in-Chief" ?

So give a run down on expectations vs reality.