America was founded as a Christian Nation

[Pale Rider]

I'm not asserting that none of the Founders practiced religion--so you can step away from that accusation. I'm not asserting that all of the Founders were atheists--step away from that one too. I'm not asserting that none of the Founders were Christians--keep stepping. I'm saying that some of them were not Christians, that it is likely that one or more of them were Atheists, and that among those who actually claimed to be Christians, there was a variety in their religious truths--they certainly were not all Catholics, for instance.

The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. That doesn't make it appropriate, or constitutional, and there is certainly is not anything about it that makes it foundational several decades after the Constitution was ratified. There's nothing about "IN GOD WE TRUST" that demands anyone to be a Christian--in fact, since you dig facts so much, Jews can trust in God and not beleive that Jesus is God. Atheists can get behind it since trusting in a super-sonic Santa Claus is no worse than trusting in the treasury or later, the Federal Reserve.

There's no constitutional requirement to swear on a Bible in Court. There's no such requirement to swear oaths on a Bible. There never has been. Al that's ever been actually required is a solemn affirmation. Too bad so many Christians can't manage it without a threat from the All-Mighty.

So I'm still waiting Pale. Can you come up with that long overlooked reference to Christ, or any reference in any founding document that is unambiguously a principle held only by Christians, or will you simply and blindly ascribe every sensible principle of governance that every society ever held as sensible, to be Christian principles, wether or not you can substantiate your claims with evidence?

It boils down to this, and it's very simple, "the founders" does not mean "only those in this countries new government." The founders means "ALL" the people of this new country, and they were, by a vast majority, Judeo Christian.

[Abbey Marie]

Here's just one (sort of obscure) example of a religious man who signed the Constitution (for Delaware). Given time, I am sure we can come up with many more.

Richard Bassett:
"He was a devout Methodist and held religious meetings at Bohemia Manor [his home] and supported the church financially."

[Abbey Marie]

Here's another:

Abraham Baldwin

1754-1807

Georgia

Clergyman, lawyer; tutor at Yale; chaplain in Continental Army;

[Abbey Marie]

Third:
David Brearly:
When free from his judicial duties, Brearly devoted much energy to lodge and church affairs. He was one of the leading members of the Masonic Order in New Jersey, as well as state vice president of the Society of the Cincinnati, an organization of former officers of the Revolutionary War. In addition, he served as a delegate to the Episcopal General Conference (1786) and helped write the church's prayer book.

[Abbey Marie]

Jacob Broom:
Broom also found time for philanthropic and religious activities. He served on the board of trustees of the College of Wilmington and as a lay leader at the Old Swedes Church.

[Abbey Marie]

Another signatory:

Daniel Carroll:
...he studied for 6 years (1742-48) under the Jesuits at St. Omer's in Flanders.

[Abbey Marie]

Ellsworth, Oliver (1745-1807), one of the nation's founding fathers and third Chief Justice of the United States, received half of his undergraduate education at Yale, and half at Princeton, where he graduated in 1766. In his junior year he and others founded the Well Meaning Club, which later became the Cliosophic Society.
Returning to his home in Windsor, Connecticut, he studied theology and then law

[Abbey Marie]

William Few:
A devout Methodist, he also donated generously to philanthropic causes.

[Abbey Marie]

James McHenry:
Active in community affairs, he served as president of the first Bible society in Baltimore in 1813

[Abbey Marie]

And here's a quote from Alexander Hamilton:

"I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ."

[Abbey Marie]

Charles Cotesworth Pinckney:

"For more than fifteen years before his death, he acted as president of the Bible Society of Charleston--an office to which he was named with unanimity by the Christians of almost every sect."

[OCA]

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[GW in Ohio]

Pale Rider: No offense, but this was one of the dumbest posts ever made:

Well if the founding of America WASN'T rooted in Christianity, then where did all this come from?




IN GOD WE TRUST
HISTORY OF THE MOTTO OF THE USA

Becaue we trust in god, or believe in God, that doesn't make us a "Christian nation."

You do know there are other religions besides Christianity, right?

[Dilloduck]

Pale Rider: No offense, but this was one of the dumbest posts ever made:



Becaue we trust in god, or believe in God, that doesn't make us a "Christian nation."

You do know there are other religions besides Christianity, right?

Ya---Islam---When they take over everyone will be pretty appreciative of Christianity.