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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Not upset... DISGUSTED.

    They've over done it... a thousand times over.

    I used to think democrats were just people who saw things differently than republicans, but still actually loved America. I don't believe they love American now, and I find them absolutely repulsive. Since I have a choice, I chose not to listen to them.
    I know what you're saying, there's a reason I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm not a Republican either. Just think of it this way; they're having a tantrum, a very long epic tantrum.

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    Default Anyone remember when CNN was told they had lower ratings than NICKLODIAN?

    There's a reason those Cable Fake News Outlets are losing. So I stopped watching any of them, shortly after September 11, 2001

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    FAKE NEWS AT IT'S FINEST!
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    I'm kind of an oil lamp collector, have about 15 of them, 3 of them being my prized Aladdins for light. I like the flash lights too, and have lots of different ones of those including a couple very powerful LED, and I keep lots of batteries on hand. I buy those in bulk, all sizes.



    I'm stocked on lamp oil. I have probably 8 gallons. I know it's not sustainable, but all the lamps are also full, and if I burn them one by one and actually run out of oil, then the power has really been out a long, long time, and America must have been blown to smithereens. We'll probably all be scavengers or dead by then.

    Interesting oil lamps. I've never seen that kind before, with that mantle there. Does it make it burn hotter & more efficient?

    We still have a couple of old-school ones up at the cabin, but they're the wick kind that you dial up and down to get the right flame.

    And, yeah.. those are extremely efficient. That fuel will go bad before you burn 8 gallons of it unless you put a bunch of stabilizers in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Right there with you. Already saving for my off-grid lifestyle...few farm animals. need a spring on the property. Basic solar. And plenty of booze, honey, ammo. It's getting ridiculous.
    Don't forget soap and spices. Good bartering items.

    I need to get a solar generator and then I will feel better. Don't have as good a setup as I had in California ... my own water well and septic, 2 acres to farm and a basement to store things. Haven't quite figured out what to do with this place where I am now.

    We are, however, prepared to live a few months of the grid.

    Darin ... do you still have property?

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Got a DC plant planned yet? If not, I'd be happy to explain how I have my cabin wired for 12 volt fed by 2 battery strings, each fed by their own solar panel - that way if a battery goes bad, it doesn't take down my whole DC plant.

    Also, Propane Lighting is extremely efficient and as a bonus, gives out quite a bit of heat. Redundancy is the name of the game. Mine has AC lights, DC lights and propane lights, with multiple 12v outlets around the cabin for charging phones/tablets/computers. A small AC/DC fridge also sits in the kitchen.

    9.5kw Genny is a beast! Mine is a little Honda 2.5, with my backup being a 5kw Briggs fired genny in case something happens to the Honda.
    We have solar yard lights that we can bring in for good light. Where will you get propane when SHTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    We have solar yard lights that we can bring in for good light. Where will you get propane when SHTF?
    Probably the same place that we get gas!

    Propane isn't a deal breaker, but it's a great redundancy system. We can convert the cabin to wood heat & cooking in short order if things go weird... but until then, I don't have any ambition whatsoever in chopping wood! Did that the whole time I was growing up and it's just not any fun.


    We've got those little solar yard lights, too... they're pretty handy. And cheap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Sure enough a 5.56 will go right through a house, done it. The AK 7.62x39 FMJ will go through even more. Besides the many different rifles and shot guns I have, I have a couple pistols as well, a Taurus Raging Bull .44mag and a Ruger Vaquero Birds Head .45LC, my "Doc Holiday" pistol.

    I have the generators locked up in the shop. The shop has double locked doors, two of which have inside clasps with padlocks. I don't leave anything out. Many, many people do around here. Small town, trusting folks. I just don't invite the morally challenged to steal any of my stuff by leaving it out.
    Right - consider finding a way to protect your house - maybe make at least a safe room; use large furniture against the walls, etc.


    @sassy - No, i do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post

    @sassy - No, i do not.
    Where will you settle down when you get back?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Where will you settle down when you get back?
    Unsure - but it will probably look a little like this - and have outbuildings, barn, livestock holding areas and grazing areas. And chickens.


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    We should all get an off-grid place together. Though I really have nothing much to offer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Unsure - but it will probably look a little like this - and have outbuildings, barn, livestock holding areas and grazing areas. And chickens.
    Farm boy loves his chickens!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    We should all get an off-grid place together. Though I really have nothing much to offer...
    Me neither, though I can cook!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Farm boy loves his chickens!

    Me neither, though I can cook!
    Cooking is very important!

    I can can play a very good game of Scrabble, and I'll take everyone on in Jeopardy, lol. (Which will be pretty useless if we're off-the-grid).

    Oh, and I won't be eating much of the meat either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganFats View Post
    I know what you're saying, there's a reason I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm not a Republican either. Just think of it this way; they're having a tantrum, a very long epic tantrum.
    Yeah I registered as an independent about when the republicans ran McLame, and glad I did. I very disgusted with the republicans right now and would be ashamed to be associated with them.

    I agree the left is throwing an epic tantrum, but it's more than that. The left has turned into a very radical bunch, and they're not happy with just having a voice. No, they want their agenda furthered and they're going to do it by whatever means necessary, even violence. They are fascists, they are America's ISIS, they so closely resemble the NAZI SS Troops of WWI Germany it's mind numbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Yeah I registered as an independent about when the republicans ran McLame, and glad I did. I very disgusted with the republicans right now and would be ashamed to be associated with them.

    I agree the left is throwing an epic tantrum, but it's more than that. The left has turned into a very radical bunch, and they're not happy with just having a voice. No, they want their agenda furthered and they're going to do it by whatever means necessary, even violence. They are fascists, they are America's ISIS, they so closely resemble the NAZI SS Troops of WWI Germany it's mind numbing.
    At this stage, they are really more like Brown Shirts... not far from SS to be sure. Anyone wonder why Obama wanted a "civilian military"? You looking at it!
    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    I usually start my mornings watching local and national news, check the news online, check twitter and facebook, but anymore... everything is reaching such fever pitch coming from the left, this absolute tidal wave of hysteria, lies, hypocrisy and double standards, and what I see as leftist anti Americanism, I'm right to the point where I don't even want to hear about it anymore. Sunday and Monday I didn't watch any news at all on TV. What I got online was enough, but I turned the morning news on this morning and quickly realized that I'd had the tv on mute for probably 45 minutes, so I turned the channel. So I'm at this point where I might not watch any news at all except some local evening news, and then just to catch the weather. What I see on TV I don't even consider news anymore. This 24/7 stuff where a talking head speaks for maybe a minute or two about an actual even, then says "let's bring on our panel," is where I either hit mute or turn the channel. I don't need an analyst, or pundit, or any other sort of person paid to simply give their opinion, to tell me what they think. I heard what the intro was and I can decide for myself what to think. I don't need it analysed and I don't need to hear their opinion. And these talking heads all must be cut from the same mold, because invariably they ALL start out their diatribe with "LOOK."

    So... I'm just about on FULL when it comes to this toxic state of affairs in America. I think the left is unhinged, and I just don't want to hear about it anymore. If it ever boils over to the point where it reaches my front door way out here in Podunk, WI, then I'll deal with it the way I see fit. I'll protect my own hard earned little chunk of America that I've worked and sweated to build with every fiber of my being.
    Amen. Right in that same boat with ya..
    You do know that makes us degenerate, and ignorant savage brutes , right?
    As now are all true red-bloodied American males -- that do not drink the liberal, pansy-ass Kool-Aid and that also do not seek appeasement first while demanding that some government force/entity destroy us and our freedoms ...
    I go with this saying , learned many decades ago from my dearly departed, highly decorated Korean War veteran friend. One in which he sums up quite nicely such ignorant , arrogant measly and dumbass people.......
    " Fukkém, feed ém fish-heads."------Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Cooking is very important!

    I can can play a very good game of Scrabble, and I'll take everyone on in Jeopardy, lol. (Which will be pretty useless if we're off-the-grid).

    Oh, and I won't be eating much of the meat either.
    I can track, trap and/or shoot game, gut it, skin it and even cook it if no other cook is handy..
    Also if in survival mode, have no qualms, about eliminating with sweet vengeance any hostile thing that threatens me or mine --be it man or animal..
    Thank God for my Native American bloodline.. As sadly someday it may come in very, very handy..
    I am not queasy about taking scalps if it is the right kind of vermin invading my safe space created for me and mine..
    Savage actions are sometimes called for, given the right circumstances, IMHO.
    FRIENDS AND GOOD COOKS WOULD BE WELCOMED...- -- -Tyr
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