Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
If history is any indication, there is no victory.


Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás


Make no mistake, folks, throughout history there have been many an example of the futility of pursuing "victory" in that part of the world.
Why haven't three presidents understood that ?

what are other motives