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    NFL - No Fans Left

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    NFL - No Fans Left
    Watching the packer game, full stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    20%? dream on! you're lucky to get 1%
    What PLANET are you LIVING ON?

    And this is BEFORE the ratings from TODAY come out...

    The NFL has a ratings problem. Monday Night Football is down 24% from last year at this time, Sunday Night Football is down 19% and Thursday night is down 18%. We asked readers of The MMQB to share their theories and explanations behind the double-digit losses for prime-time games and the general sense that the league is losing viewers.

    https://www.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/27/nfl-ratings-decline-football-fans-explain-viewership
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Watching the packer game, full stadium
    I live in WI, and I know that the Packers are the ONLY team that is OWNED by the FANS, so they have quite arguably the most loyal fans of any team in the NFL. Green Bay is called "Title Town," and the superbowl trophy is named after the first Green Bay Packers head coach. But I guarantee you, that if Packers start taking a knee, you'll see some FANS/OWNERS demand they STAND for the anthem, or you'll start seeing LIFE TIME TICKET HOLDERS selling off tickets as well as share holders dumping their shares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    I live in WI, and I know that the Packers are the ONLY team that is OWNED by the FANS, so they have quite arguably the most loyal fans of any team in the NFL. Green Bay is called "Title Town," and the superbowl trophy is named after the first Green Bay Packers head coach. But I guarantee you, that if Packers start taking a knee, you'll see some FANS/OWNERS demand they STAND for the anthem, or you'll start seeing LIFE TIME TICKET HOLDERS selling off tickets as well as share holders dumping their shares.
    3 Packers sat. No one cares. I've live in WI too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    It only took trump a few minutes out of a day to say those things. I don't understand the idea that trump isn't concerned about the issues you mentioned.


    Whats crazy to me about the "right to do it" argument is if you go into work in a "normal" job ad after a meeting concludes you stand up and yell something offensive or if you tweet or go on Facebook, you can be fired. But these NFL players seem to be above that norm.


    What is offensive about them taking a knee? They're silently protesting, some of them even place their hand over their heart while doing so. They're not yelling, they're not shouting expletives, they're not doing anything but silently kneeling. I fail to see any offensive behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    What is offensive about them taking a knee? They're silently protesting, some of them even place their hand over their heart while doing so. They're not yelling, they're not shouting expletives, they're not doing anything but silently kneeling. I fail to see any offensive behavior.
    "Let's stand and honor America". And they don't. And I remember hearing colon's reasoning. There was nothing honorable in his explanation. Colon and lynch didn't put their hands on their hearts. I don't know about all 100 players who sat. today as I didn't watch.

    Abortion is a much bigger tragedy than a small percentage of cops who pick on blacks because they are black. Should I wipe my ass with the American flag until roe is overturned?

    I understand it's everyone's right to demonstrate and say what they want. It's the owners' choice, as trump indicated, whether it's allowed on the football field before games. I don't get the argument of "It's their constitutional right". As if no one knew that. If that guaranteed people couldn't lose their jobs over what they said, Paula Deen wouldn't have been fired. Neither would the clippers owner have been forced to sell the clippers. People have to be careful what they say on Twitter and Facebook because employers look at that. And people have been fired for it.
    The explanation is always simple. So and so's behavior doesn't represent what our organization stands for and he or she is no longer a part of XYZ company. If you're willing to fight to the death for people's right to say what they want and keep their jobs......

    that may be a losing battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    3 Packers sat. No one cares. I've live in WI too.
    You're full of shit. Right or wrong people across the country are pissed as hell. Players are being booed in left wing cities.

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    Default Laugh if you want, but I think I have a remedy for all of this crap.

    Simply put. Why not play the anthem, and display the FLAG.....BEFORE the players come out on the field?

    Let the fans stand, salute, hold their hand over their heart, and sing or listen...BEFORE any players come out of the Locker rooms????

    Wouldn't that solve the problem for the NBA, NFL, and BASEBALL LEAGUES???
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Simply put. Why not play the anthem, and display the FLAG.....BEFORE the players come out on the field?

    Let the fans stand, salute, hold their hand over their heart, and sing or listen...BEFORE any players come out of the Locker rooms????

    Wouldn't that solve the problem for the NBA, NFL, and BASEBALL LEAGUES???
    Could. But for me the damage has been done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Simply put. Why not play the anthem, and display the FLAG.....BEFORE the players come out on the field?

    Let the fans stand, salute, hold their hand over their heart, and sing or listen...BEFORE any players come out of the Locker rooms????

    Wouldn't that solve the problem for the NBA, NFL, and BASEBALL LEAGUES???
    One up ... Why play the National Anthem at all? Is there a point to doing so? I bet nobody even knows why they do it to begin with. The NBA does it because the NFL does it because MLB does it? I would say most people are probably ambivalent to it at best. Hell, the current crop of up-n-comers in the generation pool probably can't even comprehend English well enough to understand the words and meaning anyway. They consider getting through the alphabet a monumental achievement and STILL probably wonder what it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    What is offensive about them taking a knee? They're silently protesting, some of them even place their hand over their heart while doing so. They're not yelling, they're not shouting expletives, they're not doing anything but silently kneeling. I fail to see any offensive behavior.
    I'm perplexed that you see nothing offensive in pointedly refusing to pay respect to our flag- that so many died for. I truly am starting to feel that I don't belong in this upside-down world.
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    Will we see hockey players kneeling on the ice?
    Olympic medalists refusing to stand on the platform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Will we see hockey players kneeling on the ice?
    Olympic medalists refusing to stand on the platform?

    At the rate things are going Abbey. I suspect it won't be long for that stuff too!

    Everything, anyone finds insulting, offensive, abusive, or against their poor little feelings that are hurt..eventually....according to Political Correctness...will come under the scrutiny of the whiners, crybabies, snowflakes, racist denial gang, young liberals, old liberals, democrats...and on, and on, and on.

    Obama and company managed to destroy the principles of Real Respect for Others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Will we see hockey players kneeling on the ice?
    Olympic medalists refusing to stand on the platform?
    It would certainly go along with George soros dream/goals.

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