Atheism

[pete311]

How do you KNOW you're right, though .. ?

How do you presume to have a full grasp of any / all possible reason(s) for the universe's creation ? If the mind which created it is unimaginably greater than your own, possessing an intelligence beyond your ability to comprehend, how can you begin to come up with any conclusions as to why it did what it did ?

Face this fact. Though you'll happily try to ridicule the so-called irrationality of those who cling to their faith, YOU, Pete, are doing nothing different to that yourself. You have a faith that God doesn't exist. You cannot defend this faith, since you cannot prove to have a superior grasp upon the realities of our origin than those you'll happily oppose. You therefore don't KNOW you're right.

But, you'll believe you are, all the same.

That's because your faith is a blind one. Ultimately unreasoned, since you don't admit to the possibility of any superior reasoning from any other origin ....

Strange that you don't ask this of other members since it applies to them as well. I never claimed to be right or know. I am just skeptical of any man made god. According to your words above, how is that an unreasonable stance? Zeus, Allah, Shiva or Odin all have the same likely hood of being God as the Christian God. Why choose one of the other? Time in history and upbringing.

[aboutime]

You need to reread the definitions instead of writing your own and injecting a lot of personal theory.

petey. You just exposed your hypocrisy again for all to see. But you really do mirror, and emulate the Liberal mode of insisting ONLY YOU and your so-called definitions are valid..while everyone else, with our own opinions, or personal theory HAVE TO BE WRONG.

Are you sure your parents know you were born full of hatred, and no brain?

[Drummond]

You need to reread the definitions instead of writing your own and injecting a lot of personal theory.

Nope.

By no stretch of the imagination can an agnostic be called a 'believer' in God. This defies the definition. All that's left is non-belief.

Agnosticism is quintessential non-belief. In God. In denying God. However, it does open the door for acceptance of proof, if any is perceived.

An atheist is a committed non-believer, though. There's no room for acceptance of God - any God - in atheism.

HOWEVER -- to be committed, immovably, to non-belief .. is to reject the possibility of a belief in God. An atheist has FAITH that no proof of God's existence will ever be perceivable as fact. An atheist is blind to so much as the possibility.

Immovable FAITH, in other words ... a defining characteristic of a devout believer in God ! So, Pete, if you stick to atheism, you're displaying devout faith in what you believe.

-- Thing is ... you ATTACK those who display faith in God. Your own strength of faith is absolutely NO DIFFERENT, even if its content is.

So, you want to find reasons to attack Christians ? Then, attack YOURSELF in displaying the same commitment (- myopic in nature ? -)to your own belief-system, too.

IF YOU DO NOT -- IT MAKES YOUR POSITION A TOTALLY HYPOCRITICAL ONE.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I am just skeptical of any man made god.

I doubt anyone here believes in a "man made God."

In fact, I've never heard a Christian claim that "man made God." In fact, I can't find anywhere in the Bible where it states "man made God." According to you, the first words in the Bible in Genesis should start right saying, "in the beginning, man made God."

You sure come up with some screwball shit.

[aboutime]

Somebody, please tell our lost member petey....he is the only one here who claims there is a MAN MADE GOD! That's nothing but a constantly repeated lie, similar to all the liberal lies told, and retold over and over again...until they are believed as fact.

[pete311]

Nope.

By no stretch of the imagination can an agnostic be called a 'believer' in God. This defies the definition. All that's left is non-belief.

Agnosticism is quintessential non-belief. In God. In denying God. However, it does open the door for acceptance of proof, if any is perceived.

An atheist is a committed non-believer, though. There's no room for acceptance of God - any God - in atheism.

HOWEVER -- to be committed, immovably, to non-belief .. is to reject the possibility of a belief in God. An atheist has FAITH that no proof of God's existence will ever be perceivable as fact. An atheist is blind to so much as the possibility.

Immovable FAITH, in other words ... a defining characteristic of a devout believer in God ! So, Pete, if you stick to atheism, you're displaying devout faith in what you believe.

-- Thing is ... you ATTACK those who display faith in God. Your own strength of faith is absolutely NO DIFFERENT, even if its content is.

So, you want to find reasons to attack Christians ? Then, attack YOURSELF in displaying the same commitment (- myopic in nature ? -)to your own belief-system, too.

IF YOU DO NOT -- IT MAKES YOUR POSITION A TOTALLY HYPOCRITICAL ONE.

You can believe in god but also believe we can know or can't know. They are not mutually exclusive.

[pete311]

I doubt anyone here believes in a "man made God."

In fact, I've never heard a Christian claim that "man made God." In fact, I can't find anywhere in the Bible where it states "man made God." According to you, the first words in the Bible in Genesis should start right saying, "in the beginning, man made God."

You sure come up with some screwball shit.

Man wrote the bible. Boom! Man made god.

[aboutime]

Man wrote the bible. Boom! Man made god.

Okay petey. Since you claim to be so smart. NAME the man who wrote the Bible. And tell us WHO invented the MAN MADE GOD!

[pete311]

Okay petey. Since you claim to be so smart. NAME the man who wrote the Bible. And tell us WHO invented the MAN MADE GOD!

https://www.biblica.com/resources/bi...ote-the-bible/

[BoogyMan]

Atheists are not against beliefs. That is just ridiculous.

Every atheist I have ever spoken with mocks me for my faith while denying that their own belief that there is no deity is a faith in itself.

[aboutime]

https://www.biblica.com/resources/bi...ote-the-bible/

Of course, for Christians, the Bible is more than just a human book. It is the authoritative, written Word of God. Through this ancient collection of books, God speaks into our world, revealing who he is and how he’s at work—then and now—repairing all that is broken. God did not simply give dictation to the human authors of Scripture; their contribution is real.
Thank you petey. As the Atheist you claim to be. You are proving how totally uninformed you actually are for us. The people (Men) who wrote the Bible, did so for a purpose. And you will still deny it, even after reading how Those Men from the past needed, and wanted to PASS ON the Word of GOD. You know? They God You Insist Doesn't Exist...as made up by Man.

If you have a place to go, and bury your hypocritical head petey....now would be the optimum time to just FADE AWAY, and stop making a fool of yourself, again, and again.

You are so anxious to prove something you cannot prove. You will perpetually fail.

[pete311]

Every atheist I have ever spoken with mocks me for my faith while denying that their own belief that there is no deity is a faith in itself.

Need to find better friends

[pete311]

Of course, for Christians, the Bible is more than just a human book. It is the authoritative, written Word of God. Through this ancient collection of books, God speaks into our world, revealing who he is and how he’s at work—then and now—repairing all that is broken. God did not simply give dictation to the human authors of Scripture; their contribution is real.
Thank you petey. As the Atheist you claim to be. You are proving how totally uninformed you actually are for us. The people (Men) who wrote the Bible, did so for a purpose. And you will still deny it, even after reading how Those Men from the past needed, and wanted to PASS ON the Word of GOD. You know? They God You Insist Doesn't Exist...as made up by Man.

If you have a place to go, and bury your hypocritical head petey....now would be the optimum time to just FADE AWAY, and stop making a fool of yourself, again, and again.

You are so anxious to prove something you cannot prove. You will perpetually fail.

The men that wrote the bible did so decades and even centuries after christ. It's not the written word of god. You put a lot of trust in goat herders 2000 years ago and then the thousands of people/churches that edited, translated and canonized it.

[aboutime]

The men that wrote the bible did so decades and even centuries after christ. It's not the written word of god. You put a lot of trust in goat herders 2000 years ago and then the thousands of people/churches that edited, translated and canonized it.

So petey. Tell us who wrote the book you follow on Atheism? As for goat herders. We can't help what your sexual preferences might be...bragging about all of the conquests you, and other liberal misfits could have...like the 72 virgins with 4 legs.
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[pete311]

So petey. Tell us who wrote the book you follow on Atheism? As for goat herders. We can't help what your sexual preferences might be...bragging about all of the conquests you, and other liberal misfits could have...like the 72 virgins with 4 legs.

I don't think you understand Atheism. You understand it's not a religion right?