Atheism

[pete311]

You are lying or ignorant

Before his execution he had Last Rites performed by a priest.

[darin]

Before his execution he had Last Rites performed by a priest.

Why does that matter? What matters - to your point - is his beliefs (that may have affected his behaviour). The actions of a man facing his execution have no bearing to who he was. To his 'livelong faith'.

Do you consider Ted Bundy a Christian? Afterall, upon confinement he 'converted'.

It's dishonest for you to claim McVey "was a christian" because the evidence and his own words tell a different story about his faith at/during/around the time of his terrorism. If the texas church shooter was a practicing militant atheist at war with Religion it DOES have bearing on this story. IF that is the case.

You're smarter than this Pete.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Please put even less effort in and don't reply to me.

So you can dish out your snide, ignorant little comments, but you don't like someone doing it to you.

Put me on ignore, I couldn't care less.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You're smarter than this Pete.

You sure about that?

If he is, then he's dishonest as you pointed out, which is what I know damn well is the case. He's playing his little leftist game.

[pete311]

Why does that matter? What matters - to your point - is his beliefs (that may have affected his behaviour). The actions of a man facing his execution have no bearing to who he was. To his 'livelong faith'.

Do you consider Ted Bundy a Christian? Afterall, upon confinement he 'converted'.

It's dishonest for you to claim McVey "was a christian" because the evidence and his own words tell a different story about his faith at/during/around the time of his terrorism. If the texas church shooter was a practicing militant atheist at war with Religion it DOES have bearing on this story. IF that is the case.

You're smarter than this Pete.

If the beginning of someone's life is religious and the end. Then I would suspect it never really left him. However it's speculation and I'm not interested in debating the speculation. In the end I just detest abbey's baiting trying to connect the shooters atheism to his behavior. I am atheist and non violent, even after being shot at myself. So there.

[darin]

You sure about that?

If he is, then he's dishonest as you pointed out, which is what I know damn well is the case. He's playing his little leftist game.

He's smart. But he's backed into a wall in 90% of his posts. When people disagree they tend to approach with both barrels first. They attack the man. I think his arguments are silly enough to attack - would never want to go straight at the core of his character. I've done that to him before - and apologized publicly - so I get it. But it doesn't HAVE to be such contentious debate.

[pete311]

So you can dish out your snide, ignorant little comments, but you don't like someone doing it to you.

You're a typical liberal ass hat.

Put me on ignore, I couldn't care less.

Maybe you want to study darin's posts. We disagree on just about everything, but his replies imply he engages his brain. Which I respect and appreciate. Yours do not and boil down to kindergarten bully drivel.

[darin]

If the beginning of someone's life is religious and the end. Then I would suspect it never really left him. However it's speculation and I'm not interested in debating the speculation. In the end I just detest abbey's baiting trying to connect the shooters atheism to his behavior. I am atheist and non violent, even after being shot at myself. So there.

Your speculation is to drive home a point. Your speculation is geared to affirming your preconceived ideas; you PREFER him to be "A christian" so evidence from his own mouth wouldn't be enough to convince you otherwise. If you were seriously wanting to debate the issue maybe your reply might have been "Got it, Abbey - guy seems to be an Atheist. Honestly, in my mind the depravity of man probably POINTS me towards God not existing because I can't believe this Loving God would create the potential for such evil"

or some shit like that.

But instead you threw out a wild accusation of McVey. And I've just shown you and the internets how wrong it was to assume McVey's faith - especially when McVey claimed otherwise.

[pete311]

Your speculation is to drive home a point. Your speculation is geared to affirming your preconceived ideas; you PREFER him to be "A christian" so evidence from his own mouth wouldn't be enough to convince you otherwise. If you were seriously wanting to debate the issue maybe your reply might have been "Got it, Abbey - guy seems to be an Atheist. Honestly, in my mind the depravity of man probably POINTS me towards God not existing because I can't believe this Loving God would create the potential for such evil"

or some shit like that.

But instead you threw out a wild accusation of McVey. And I've just shown you and the internets how wrong it was to assume McVey's faith - especially when McVey claimed otherwise.

It's far from wild, but I'm not interested in this side debate, so I'll concede so we can move on.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Maybe you want to study darin's posts. We disagree on just about everything, but his replies imply he engages his brain. Which I respect and appreciate. Yours do not and boil down to kindergarten bully drivel.

You've insulted me and my intelligence enough times now that you should have learned, I give what I get.

You don't want me treating you like an ignorant little shit, don't act like one and don't insult me, it's as simple as that. I'll debate politely with anyone that does so with me, try it.

You have made STUPID arguments here, and you circle back to them as if they were end all, be all, genius, but in reality it's infantile and ignorant, so it doesn't deserve anything more than a retort of the same caliber.

And your BULLY comment is pure horse crap. I've not been any more rude or insulting to you than you have been to ME, so you're guilty of hypocrisy there, big time. All you're really doing is proving that Darin is right, you're backed into a corner and now you're thin skin is showing.

[pete311]

You've insulted me and my intelligence enough times now that you should have learned, I give what I get.

You don't want me treating you like an ignorant little shit, don't act like one and don't insult me, it's as simple as that. I'll debate politely with anyone that does so with me, try it.

You have made STUPID arguments here, and you circle back to them as if they were end all, be all, genius, but in reality it's infantile and ignorant, so it doesn't deserve anything more than a retort of the same caliber.

Great, are we done now?

[darin]

It's far from wild, but I'm not interested in this side debate, so I'll concede so we can move on.

Admit it - you kind of like when I make your points for you...even if the point is ultimately proven silly by....me.


you're welcome.

[NightTrain]

You guys are wasting your time. Valiant efforts, but doomed to fail because he's got all the answers.

Petey is as fanatical about his atheism as he is with Global Warming.


If hes lucky, he'll be able repent on his deathbed and he's got a lot of pretty harsh things he's spewed toward the Almighty to own up to.

If not, well... that'll suck and he'll have all eternity to reflect on how he lived his brief life.

[pete311]

You guys are wasting your time. Valiant efforts, but doomed to fail because he's got all the answers.

Petey is as fanatical about his atheism as he is with Global Warming.


If hes lucky, he'll be able repent on his deathbed and he's got a lot of pretty harsh things he's spewed toward the Almighty to own up to.

If not, well... that'll suck and he'll have all eternity to reflect on how he lived his brief life.

Now you sound like you have all the answers. I have repeatedly said I have doubt and leave room for high powers. You guys are the 100% christian faith people. Who's the fanatic?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You guys are wasting your time. Valiant efforts, but doomed to fail because he's got all the answers.

Petey is as fanatical about his atheism as he is with Global Warming.


If hes lucky, he'll be able repent on his deathbed and he's got a lot of pretty harsh things he's spewed toward the Almighty to own up to.

If not, well... that'll suck and he'll have all eternity to reflect on how he lived his brief life.

He'll call you a bully next...