I don't know exactly why I don't like talking to civilians about it, I just don't.
Most vets don't. As Motown says, it's hard not to on the board. The means of communication here sort of dictates. While I am the same person in real life I am on this board, I don't talk much at all. I "talk" more on the board in a day than I do in 2 weeks in real life. But for someone like me who spent the first 40 years of his life in the military as a dependent then a Marine, it's REALLY hard not to. Same with ANY career military person.
But there IS a disconnect. I'm a lousy civilian and I'll be the first to say it. Y'all are generally disorganized, inefficient, wasteful, and closed-minded.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Not sure I like the way you said that.
I'm a hardass prick by civilian standards, but I'm really not a mean person. Babies, kittens and puppies are like WTF-ever dude. Get me angry, we got a different discussion going on. Another civilian-military discrepancy. I don't go into combat to lose and when it's on it's ON. I have been chastised more than once hereabouts for such behavior.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I had to think about this. I don't think it's that they don't get it, my experience is that most civilians don't want to get it. They want to say thanks for your service and they have preconceived notions about what the military is like and they prefer to keep things that way.
I was in the army for six years during the Cold War.
United States Air Force: 10/1979 - 10/1987, TSgt.
Integrated Avionics Instrumentation/Flight Controls Systems Specialist, F-4D, F-16
Lackland AFB - San Antonio, TX - Basic Training
Chanute AFB - Rantoul, Ill - Tech School
Nellis AFB - Las Vegas, NV - 474th Tactical Fighter Wing - AGS
MacDill AFB - Tampa, FL - 63rd Tactical Fighter Training Wing - AGS
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Saw this on facejoke, had to post it....
I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
A Deplorable!
We may have sounded angry, or confused when we joined.
We may have been upset for being away from home so long.
But...we...UNLIKE THOSE WHO NEVER JOINED US....never Stopped Loving Our Country!
I will forever, be proud of my service...even for those who Disrespect America.
I remember the last sorry excuse for a president...calling Me, and Other Veterans...Home Grown Terrorists.
And most of us can be heard saying..."Kiss My Ass You Traitor!"
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I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
US Navy, 86 to 96
Worked on P3 and H53 out of Sigonella. Lots of detachments throughout Europe and middle east during desert storm. Even went on detachement to Hell, Norway. Been to hell and back and saw it froze over. Worked on C2 out of Norfolk. Airframes, AMS
Absolutely no regrets, I'd do it all again.
I used to be Aboutime (below). Retired Navy 1964-95. Saw the P3's Orion's in Norva, and Puerto Rico. They still sound awesome but now being used by NOAA for Hurricane duties.
Served on the USS Nassau LHA - 4 During both Shield and Storm. Miss it as much as you too! Also last saw Sigonella around 1985 or 86.
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I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me: