Super Minion
It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.
She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
So are teachers forbidden by contract to report suspected crime?Originally Posted by Kathianne
If so, then it is no surprise to me that our kids are graduating from a great many public schools with about 5th/6th grade level of education(as judged from education standards of the 50's/60's/70's).
If teacher are forbidden to be law abiding citizens and thus report illegals, then why are they teachers?
Is there not any standard that a teacher be a moral person. be a believer in law and order?
Be an upright citizen?
I think I know the answer to these questions, but would appreciate hearing answer from a teacher....
I admire teachers greatly, at least the teachers I had over 45 years ago, before the public school system went all to hell, thanks to liberalism and the socialist dem party.
One of the greatest tragedies in this nation is its public school system that the liberal dem party has destroyed, IMHO.--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Super Minion
Actually teachers are not police and there is that pesky SCOTUS case mentioned in the article.
Teachers cannot be all of the societal persons that they are currently assigned to be. Now you want to add cop.
I left my position for the craziness that was expected. I was accidentally hit trying to prevent a fight. Had to buy over $1000 of supplies for the 215 kids I had every week. 44 kids in one class, 40 desks. Over half the families in poverty; the well off homeschool or send private. Rules and curriculum designed by the fed, Title I school. Have to make sure the kids have breakfast and lunch and take home dinner if they ask. Ran out of money for paper and pencils in March. No computers in classes for the kids. Reading level for class of 7th graders was third grade.
Yep, now spend any free time calling ICE.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Senior Member
It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.
We shouldn't be doing that in America.
Super Minion
I’m between Phoenix and Tucson, no bilingual classes. They have a 6 week course for those who cannot speak English, then they are put in class. This the reading levels.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Senior Member
That's fantastic, but I know in CA they teach them in Spanish. No matter how you look at it though, it's costing us American taxpayers a lot of money to teach these kids that are illegally in this country.
Our generosity is killing us...
The Elephant in the Classroom: Mass Immigration's Impact on Public Education
https://www.fairus.org/issue/publica...blic-education
Thatcherite Minion
... which is why, surely, having Trump for a President must be such a godsend to you. His policy, the whole direction of his Presidency: 'AMERICA FIRST'. He's strong against the issue of your southern border. He's strong on the matter of admitting those who there's good reason to believe hold 'values' which makes them enemies of your country.
Trump clearly has more work to do, though, and ensuring that teachers uphold the law, not defy it (!!) is clearly something deserving of his attention (or that of his Administration, at minimum).
Tyr's spot on. If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers. By what possible right do teachers opt out of responsible behaviour, when surely as teachers, they're role models for the kids in their charge ?
More ... to not report known illegals is to be complicit in their illegality (a point Tyr has addressed ... it isn't a matter of being 'police', but it IS a matter of being a responsible citizen). Arresting teachers who willfully do this, is surely no less than deserved ... and any case proven against an offending teacher should result in their never being allowed to teach again.
I fail to see how that isn't blindingly obvious.
Seems to me that President Trump has more than one swamp to drain.
It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
Plant Parenthood.
Remarkable that you would post (or indeed believe) such a sentiment giving I know you know the character of Kathianne. I think you should apologetically retract this comment and consider why you believe it.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Thatcherite Minion
Doing a bit of stirring, there, Noir ? H'mm .. ??
A pity that you would stoop to this.
I'm actually going to repost the comment you seemingly 'object' to ... because I really think you should give more thought to both our positions !! Consider - very carefully, this time - what it is you're objecting to:
For the life of me, I can't see what reputable argument could be offered which counters what I've said. Are you actually joking ?? You can only be suggesting that teachers should NOT live up to such a standard, and in not living up to it, they nonetheless continue on, credibly, as teachers of standards they don't consider themselves to be bound by.If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers.
What kind of example would THAT set ????
I think you're joking. You must be. Either that, or you're exhibiting something highly revealing about the Leftie mind !!
.... a 'do as I say, and not what I do' approach .. ?
I don't need to comment further. Rather, Noir, I invite you - if you even can - to defend your position.
[If you're joking ... good one. You got me !]
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
Hold on there, jackanape. He made no such allegation against Kathianne, he said if teachers ( as in a very broad and general statement ), etc.....
Just as I make comments about bad cops without insulting my own nephew who is a cop.
I suggest that you stop trying to impugn his character with such garbage as you just spit out in your post.....
And just who are you to cast such condemnations and then demand an apology!!??
Especially so, when no such condemnation is justified??
I make the same statement against modern day American teachers as a whole-- which obviously does not include each and every teacher!
For you to pretend that it does is either very disingenuous to serve a personal agenda of yours or else childishly ignorant, IMHO..-Tyr
Last edited by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot; 06-06-2019 at 01:22 PM.
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Senior Member
Well, well... lookie here... the little boy who DEMANDS everyone treat him like he's special or he'll IGNORE them is showing some hypocrisy. It appears he's not above stirring some SHIT himself.
Two faced little prick.
Last edited by High_Plains_Drifter; 06-07-2019 at 08:10 AM.
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
True, teachers are not police--but such is also true of citizens that are often asked to report crime.
I have no doubt in my mind but that you are a truly caring and fantastic teacher.
I also think you being so puts you in an ever dwindling group of great teachers in this day and age.
One that harkens back to the standards and caring once so inspiring and beneficial to our children
as was lived and displayed by those admirable and magnificent caring teachers of the past.
The very same teachers that gave me such hope, in my own deprived childhood and its sad poverty.--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Super Minion
Thanks for that. Seriously, it's not the teachers' or schools' job to report illegals, it's to teach. No matter the legality, the kids aren't the ones who need to be singled out.
Arrest the employers, pressure the real police to report to ICE, not the kids.
Especially on the borders, as AZ is, the pressure the schools are under is way to much to add cop roll. Personally, I believe that cutting things like feeding year round at school, would help. There should also be pressure on parents, legal or not, to provide basic supplies for their kids. Computers? No. Paper, pencils, notebooks? Yes. Make them responsible also for lack of care of school provided materials, including texts-SS text is $80 per. They were trashed, but the kids aren't held 'responsible,' as my kids were in non-Title I schools-as it should be.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Just Me
Ft Worth was a nice place. When it was a cow town. Then the rich cattle owners and carpetbaggers had to build a place to live to get their monied asses away from the smell of cow shit and they built Dallas. /NYC/LA/Chicago/any other leftwingnut cesspool you wish to name. Now Ft Worth is nothing but the Poor White Trash capital of Dallas, where all those "cultured" and allegedly educated carpetbaggers keep their blacks, hispanics and any other not good enough folk.
The city/county governments around such cesspools are all teeming with idiot lefties and their policies.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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