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I'm pretty sure I saw a young student shot point blank dead by a HK police officer a few minutes ago. Universities are closing. Earlier a motorcycle cop drove his bike into numerous people, then before they could catch him, he sped away.
The police also shot 2 others in the video I watched, live. Stand News out of Hong Kong.
I'm going to be surprised if China doesn't invade. I hope the young people who are enamored with socialism/communism pay some attention.
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The same goofs enamored with socialism will want us to go help the protestersOriginally Posted by Kathianne
That's about the depth of their thought on the matter, IMO.
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It now appears to have turned to an outright war. Chinese army is working with HK police. Snipers on rooftop of one of the universities. A policeman was hit in leg with arrow, no guns in hands of protesters, so it's bow and arrows, Molotov bottles, and bricks.
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I would HATE to be in a war in Hong Kong. Think filling a bottle with ants and that's what that place is like. About 20 stories high no less.
The Chinese can just ring the place and shoot fish in a barrel if they get the urge.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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Indeed. Much of the fighting now though is at the universities which were closed on Wednesday. Polytech is where most of the violence is today.
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This is one of those things I just can't see the point to. Endgame? These protesters hope to get what?
Let's face facts. Not that we are above being drawn into crap like this, but we're not going to risk war with China over the place. And we're on the short list of 1 of anyone that might even contemplate it. Sanctions, if it even goes that far won't bring back the dead.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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I’m old enough to remember the same said about Solidarity and USSR.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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The protesters are using physical violence as a means to resist. They're out-gunned. Out-manned. And China can just flat isolate Hong Kong from the World.
You're stretching my memory but the Solidarity movement was the worker's union vs the Polish government. The workers union in a socialist state IS the people and they can disrupt the nation, not merely an isolated province. Maybe the Soviets would have stepped in. They didn't.
I'm just not seeing a good comparison here.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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Other than the ‘impossible ‘ sometimes isn’t.
The students were not violent until provoked by tear gas, beatings, rapes, etc. That includes right up to Saturday.
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"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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That looks exactly like the Nazis rounding up the Jews and putting them on trains. The entire WORLD should be absolutely OUTRAGED that is happening.
Where are they taking them? What are they doing to them?
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Today the US Senate finally agreed with the House and passed the Hong Kong Human Rights & Democracy Act. Now only needs to be signed by the President.
Last edited by Kathianne; 11-19-2019 at 09:51 PM.
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I don't have a problem with that, nor am I indifferent to the protesters in Hong Kong. Detached maybe, but indifferent, no.
HOWEVER () ... IMO, IF We, the People of the United States, wish to be outraged at the behavior of governments, we need look no further than DC. I'm a big believer in you clean your own house before telling me how to clean mine and it goes both ways. The US Government is an embarrassment to itself, and We, the People.
Not to mention the half-assery with our military around the Globe. Do something and win or bring it home.
Whether or not any of us like it, Hong Kong is a province of China, and this issue is an internal Chinese issue.
Last edited by Kathianne; 11-19-2019 at 09:51 PM. Reason: edited to correct name of bill.
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I agree about cleaning house, thought that was all about the President?I don't have a problem with that, nor am I indifferent to the protesters in Hong Kong. Detached maybe, but indifferent, no.
HOWEVER (
Not to mention the half-assery with our military around the Globe. Do something and win or bring it home.
Whether or not any of us like it, Hong Kong is a province of China, and this issue is an internal Chinese issue.
In any case, I for one, am not looking for the US to get involved in any sense other than supporting democracy and using economics, (which we supposedly are doing already for other reasons), to apply some pressure for human rights.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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