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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Dogger View Post
    Islam is utter tyranny and contrary to our values and freedoms. All religions are essentially insane, but none moreso than the adherents of the God of Abraham, who's in fact Satan. The Founders understood this which is why the Separation Clause.

    “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

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    Sounds more like the 44th president than the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Dogger View Post
    Free speech is often insulting, offensive, and unpopular, although that wasn't my intent in saying it.
    What was your intent then?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Dogger View Post
    Like some of you, I've the tact of a nuclear bomb. So now, our form of government is in no way based upon the so called "Judeo-Christian Doctrine" (which is a religious invention). However, citizens are free to live by such a doctrine and encourage others to do the same. There's a difference between governance and living. Do your research and you'll see that our Bill of Rights is rooted in Native American Iroquois law and tradition. Nowhere in history was everything in the Bill of Rights used as a source of governance, not even the Magna Carta.
    You would be incorrect. Western society is indeed based on Judeo-Christianity. Everything we believe regarding right and wrong has its basis in Judeo-Christianity. We are steeped in it from birth, and history proves it at every turn.

    Only non-believers, who believe in non-believing, think otherwise.

    Our Constitutional Rights are endowed upon us by our "Creator". The term is used solely as a means to not specify a religion and to ensure no one "Church" has a step up on others by being mentioned. The "Creator", regardless religion, is singular and a supreme being. That spells "God" to me. You can call him what you like, but it is the same supreme being.
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    Without getting into reading all the lengthy posts/replies...

    This is being fought locally - legally. Kind of.

    One of the guys I helped campaign for local state representative is leading the lawsuit. The only problem is that no churches surrounding the area want to enter in as the plaintiff. There is an attorney who has several MN Supreme Court civil rights wins under his belt who will represent. Just gotta get at least one church on board. They are too timid and scared from what Don tells me.

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