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    Default Killing a few more in Europe but only 1.9 million injured .

    GOODNESS , WHAT AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF COINCIDENCES BEHIND THESE DEATHS AND INJURIES .

    WHO WOULD HAVE IMAGINED INOCULATIONS COULD PRODUCE SUCH CARNAGE .



    20,595 DEAD 1.9 Million Injured (50% SERIOUS) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots



    August 2, 2021 1:38 pm


    The European Union database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, and they are now reporting 20,595 fatalities, and 1,960,607 injuries, following COVID-19 injections. A Health Impact News subscriber from Europe reminded us that this database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for countries in Europe who are part of the European Union (EU), which comprises 27 countries. The total number of countries in Europe is much higher, almost twice as many, numbering around 50. (There are some differences of opinion as to which countries are technically part of Europe.) So as high as these numbers are, they do NOT reflect all of Europe. The actual number in Europe who are reported dead or injured due to COVID-19 shots would be much higher than what we are reporting here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    GOODNESS , WHAT AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF COINCIDENCES BEHIND THESE DEATHS AND INJURIES .

    WHO WOULD HAVE IMAGINED INOCULATIONS COULD PRODUCE SUCH CARNAGE .



    20,595 DEAD 1.9 Million Injured (50% SERIOUS) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots
    If it's anything like the US VAERS database it's correlation not causation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    If it's anything like the US VAERS database it's correlation not causation.
    It's nice to know that a few people are beginning to better understand the official US figures and corresponding European and UK equivalents .



    Next you need to question the Coincidence Fake News Theory and explain scientifically how these millions of adverse events have happened .

    Or are you an advocate of Covid Coincidences lasting ad infinitum ?

    Take it from little me--- hint and wink , those jabs are real killers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    It's nice to know that a few people are beginning to better understand the official US figures and corresponding European and UK equivalents .



    Next you need to question the Coincidence Fake News Theory and explain scientifically how these millions of adverse events have happened .

    Or are you an advocate of Covid Coincidences lasting ad infinitum ?

    Take it from little me--- hint and wink , those jabs are real killers .
    I'm beginning to think you have no idea what you're talking about. VAERS is nothing but a data dump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm beginning to think you have no idea what you're talking about. VAERS is nothing but a data dump.

    A classic example of Cognitive Dissonance .

    VAERS is far from a data dump -- whatever you might think that odd term means .

    However , better that you are left contained and happy in your beliefs . Never let a few inconvenient facts come between truth and a happy person .rofl .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    A classic example of Cognitive Dissonance .

    VAERS is far from a data dump -- whatever you might think that odd term means .

    However , better that you are left contained and happy in your beliefs . Never let a few inconvenient facts come between truth and a happy person .rofl .
    I'm becoming more sure that you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't really have anything connecting correlated events to causal events. I imagine if you did you'd post that rather than just declarations about how much smarter you are than everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm becoming more sure that you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't really have anything connecting correlated events to causal events. I imagine if you did you'd post that rather than just declarations about how much smarter you are than everyone else.

    When dealing with Compliance Gullibles the only thing you can sensibly do is give them a few topic markers and hints and then the simple instruction DYOR .

    I feel bad that millions of people have no idea what is going on because they are simply too stupid or have been badly misdirected and /or just

    conditioned to swallow matters as presented .

    If you are happy with the Status Quo as you see it , so be it .

    It is not my job or wish to run after people cleaning their leaky bottoms .

    I repeat the hints :-
    Poison status of the Spike protein .
    Its bio distribution .
    Poison status of Graphene Oxide .
    Blood analysis via D-Dimer testing
    Allergic and adverse reaction details of the inoculations .
    And , since you like sticking out your chin as a very easy target , knowing how to use statistics when determining causal connections between correlated events and expressing results within confidence limits .

    NOW DYOR and stop wasting my time .



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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    When dealing with Compliance Gullibles ...
    Usually the crazy toons folks at least drop in with some crazy toons links. But usually the crazy toons links are easily disprovable as was your initial posit; a valid number so stipulated but the extensions from that number were not.

    I would think on a debate site we'd get a bit more to go on rather than DYOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Usually the crazy toons folks at least drop in with some crazy toons links. But usually the crazy toons links are easily disprovable as was your initial posit; a valid number so stipulated but the extensions from that number were not.
    I would think on a debate site we'd get a bit more to go on rather than DYOR.

    Let's cut to the chase .
    Keeping it nice and simple .


    The OP is factual and a reference is clearly given which gives you the direct link to the OFFICIAL figures . They are called facts . And not called opinions .

    There are no ' extensions' .That term is used in logic as part of Set theory and also has several different uses in various aspects of more esoteric geometry which you are unlikely to have even heard of .

    Another fact is that the figures are under reported. Self evidently obvious , but more critically from research ( Harvard ) known to be by a huge factor and at least 90% and sometimes up to 99% .

    From that you can extrapolate to real world events , and hence figures , on a probability basis . My chosen extrapolation factor was deliberately ultra conservative .

    Then you will be left with a total deaths figure for the planet after a year , say , on a conservative assumption basis and true within a 95% confidence limit, say , in accepted and standard mathematical terms .


    And for arguments sake that deaths figure will be 5 million with injuries in excess of 20 million -- deliberately ultra conservative .

    YOUR PROBLEM is to explain -- give cause(s) to-- these figures other than that they represent coincidence . Something a complete moron would not be happy trying to defend .And , of course , it is irrelevant

    whether that figure actually turns out to be 1 , 2 , 10 , 50 or 100 million deaths . Same basic dilemma .

    That is the OP-- no more and no less .

    Only a Compliance Gullible would choose not to admit that something very rotten had /has happened . Which is your very position .

    Good luck with that !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    Let's cut to the chase .
    Keeping it nice and simple .

    ... Which is your very position .
    Nobody has real good luck telling me what my position is. I drove my car today. ~7000 people died in the United States. Two facts that don't necessarily have anything to do with each other. Besides I already stipulated to the official figures... but everything after that is your conjecture. People are not currently dropping like flies because of the COVID vaccine. If they start to then you can be right but at this time you are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Nobody has real good luck telling me what my position is. I drove my car today. ~7000 people died in the United States. Two facts that don't necessarily have anything to do with each other. Besides I already stipulated to the official figures... but everything after that is your conjecture. People are not currently dropping like flies because of the COVID vaccine. If they start to then you can be right but at this time you are not.
    As I thought .

    Zero knowledge of real maths and stats . The example you give is literally childish .

    The point is not to find self evident absurdities but to find scientifically endorsed links between what initially seem unconnected events, and to do so

    within a defined level of probability / confidence and hence accuracy .

    Take a course and then chat again .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    As I thought .

    Zero knowledge of real maths and stats . The example you give is literally childish .

    The point is not to find self evident absurdities but to find scientifically endorsed links between what initially seem unconnected events, and to do so

    within a defined level of probability / confidence and hence accuracy .

    Take a course and then chat again .

    You are very good at talking down to people who don't see things your way but you are very much less good at being able to move from correlation to causation. And that is the real trick isn't it? Anyone can point to two different things and say, "see???" The standard of proof is a bit higher in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You are very good at talking down to people who don't see things your way but you are very much less good at being able to move from correlation to causation. And that is the real trick isn't it? Anyone can point to two different things and say, "see???" The standard of proof is a bit higher in the real world.

    You just have not grasped basics .

    Non linear events are not subject to Newtonian explanations . There are no absolute answers ------ wrong /right , black/ white etc . They are open ended events .

    And / But Stats is just one discipline that takes such events and produces explanations ( for almost every single happening of any importance in the

    Universe ) and expresses them as outcomes via a probability conclusion .

    Events that correlate are then expressed in causal terms , given as a probability and almost always at a 95% confidence limit.

    The extremely complex and sophisticated techniques that are available overcome -- taking a very simple example --- calling a repetition of events a

    series of coincidences when more scientific and mathematic results are obtainable .

    Here we know , as an example , 1million deaths of people within 28 days of vaccination cannot be coincidence . It is then the job of scientists to find

    the causal connections between vaccinations and outcomes and partial out or identify all contributing factors .

    The Faucis of this world want to talk to you as though we have not progressed in the last two centuries and tell you the obvious lie that , as there is no

    100% causal connection then there is no connection whatsoever .

    Self evident garbage . The real scientist will find out what relationship exists and also give you an expression of associated confidence -- x% where x

    might be anything . 50% or 75% or 95 % etc . Whatever you agree and is most acceptable and actionable .



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    ^Let us know when a real scientist shows up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^Let us know when a real scientist shows up.

    How on earth would you know HOW to know ? ( a philosophical start point much loved by Plato and then Socrates among many ).

    Elementary Stats are completely out of your background .

    And also Logic -- a subject I read as one of two ancillary courses I took alongside the first of my Degrees .

    Oh my . That makes me one sort of Scientist I guess . rofl .



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