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Looks Like Dems To Take McConnell's Offer
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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I really don't like McConnell.Originally Posted by Kathianne
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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Kick the can..
Not sure I agree he caved.
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Nope me neither. See what December brings.
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Ahh sounds like he was afraid of dems changing the filibuster rules.
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Pointless.Despite McConnell’s insistence, Democrats say they will not use the extended window to pass a longer suspension of the debt limit through budget reconciliation, as Republicans want.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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December..
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Interesting to see how much sinema and mnuchin waffle between now and December if at all
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I don't like McConnell at all.
If we can reclaim the Republic, both parties are going to have to sit down and talk.
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I think it's beyond that. The People need a party of their own to take the government back from the plutarchy.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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More smoke amd mirrors from RINO's on the Liars train...
What a total bunch of PURE BS this is?
Everybody who cares, or knows anything about how POLITICIANS from both parties work, also knows....ENTITLEMENTS ARE FOREVER. Once the Politicians start giving money out. It never stops.
I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:
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No, this was a master stroke from McConnell.
Read this, it explains it all :
Co2uHh2 (1).jpgSometimes, the best thing you can do when you don’t otherwise have much leverage (because you are in the minority) is to give your opponents options they do not want. Democrats want you to believe that the only way to raise the debt ceiling without Republicans playing along is to blow up the filibuster. That’s why they and their media allies keep spinning that narrative. That’s never been true, though, and the point of McConnell’s maneuver is to force Schumer to admit that.
In reality, Democrats can raise the debt limit via reconciliation without a single Republican vote, but they don’t want to go that route because they would be using the last bullet in the chamber on that after Biden’s “build back better” boondoggle. By offering Schumer a short-term extension, McConnell is forcing the Democrats to make a choice, and none of those choices includes blowing up the filibuster. The move also relieves pressure on Joe Manchin, who will be under immense assault if a shutdown happens, while at the same time highlighting that the Democrats could fix this themselves in short order if they wanted.
When analyzing these machinations, you have to accept that a long-term default is not going to happen. The debt ceiling will be raised eventually. The question is how it’s done and who pays the political price. But if you still aren’t convinced by what I’m saying, just listen to Mazie Hirono.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10...freaks-n452818
Thus, the bullshit argument about nuking the filibuster is now moot. And it'll force them to use reconciliation on this instead of using it for backdooring the other abomination through.
It's brilliant.
McConnell is twice as clever as Schumer. He's got this.
Last edited by NightTrain; 10-06-2021 at 10:26 PM.
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Yeah, I think Mitch is pretty much the master of the Senate. He's no Pelosi or Schumer on swagger. He doesn't pretend to be what he's not. He doesn't kiss up and rarely let's his personal opinions take center stage. His thinking is to maximize the GOP senate seats. He reads the opposition better than any politician I've seen in a long, long time.
Schumer knows it, he really loathes what McConnell pulled off today, but has no choice, mostly because of the House progs. The GOP looked to be setting up to take the fall if debts went past due, not anymore. Not only willing to pull the country back, but did so by putting the crazy spending bill front and center. Nothing gets the average Joe's attention during steeply rising costs like focusing on coupling the economy with massive garnering of debt. Maybe one thing can even sharpen that focus, "It won't cost 1 cent in taxes." Anyone shopping at grocery or literal shopping stores can see there are people literally putting higher price tags on everything from 30 cents to $30 ot $40 dollars.
What those that read know, but not seeing YET, are the winter and next summer energy costs. Then there's the ticking bomb of housing bubble and damage done to rental market due to government regulations via covid-landlords are now basically trying to get as much paid up front as their market can bare. They've been shafted by government and tenants. Most are middle class folks that were working on multiple streams of income and got kicked in the teeth by the government while big corps get their pickings of properties. Think farmers over the past 100 years.
Mitch is going to force the administration and majority party to have the moderates and progs articulate their visions through reconciliation. He's going to use the real projection numbers given by budget and treasury and fed for said programs. There are going to be lists of every egregious bone hidden in the bill. It may still pass, but the average voter will be reminded come midterms what happened this fall and coming winter. Given the inflationary curve, where do you think interests rates will be in 2023?
I for one only fear that some GOP leadership may turn the attention from the policies of the left to individuals on the right, changing the focus of coming elections.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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Another perspective:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-...f-ramp-instead
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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