Here's a quote for you....

[jimnyc]

@revelarts

This one goes way way back, but the same idea. Videos galore of this one too but I think best in text.

The Monkey Ladder

A group of scientists placed five monkeys in a cage, and in the middle, a ladder with bananas on top. Every time a monkey went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the monkeys with cold water.

After a certain amount of this, each time a monkey would to start up the ladder, the others would pull it down and beat it up; this too went on for a while, but eventually no monkey would dare try climbing the ladder, no matter how great the temptation.

The scientists then decided to replace one of the monkeys. The first thing this new monkey did, of course, was start to climb the ladder. Immediately, the others pulled him down and beat him up.

After several beatings, the new monkey learned never to go up the ladder, even though there was no evident reason not to, aside from the beatings.

The second monkey was substituted and the same occurred. The first monkey participated in the beating of the second monkey. A third monkey was changed and the same was repeated. The fourth monkey was changed, resulting in the same, before the fifth was finally replaced as well.

What was left was a group of five monkeys that — without ever having received a cold shower — continued to beat up any monkey who attempted to climb the ladder.

If it was possible to ask the monkeys why they beat up on all those who attempted to climb the ladder, their most likely answer would be “I don’t know. It’s just how things are done around here.”

[revelarts]

[revelarts]

When you’re okay with naked strangers dancing for children
but go apoplectic when adults pray to God—
you’re on the side of evil and we’re done pretending any different.

-more than a few people world wide.

[revelarts]

[revelarts]

There is a moral virtue,
a moral fidelity,
ability and honesty,
which other men, besides church members,
are, by good nature and education,
by good laws and good examples nourished and trained up in;
so that civil places and trust and credit need not be monopolized into the hands of church members
(who sometimes are not fitted for public office),
while all others are deprived and despoiled of their natural and civil rights and liberties.

Roger Williams

[revelarts]

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good, or else that it's a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

just reminds me of
When some claimed 'we HAVE TO demand vaccination'. they thought they were doing good.
When some claimed 'we HAVE TO torture'. they thought they were doing good. (or claimed "it's not torture")


ok here's one place where I'd dare to differ a bit from Solzhenitsyn.
I'd say the above is true unless they are psychopaths.
OR they've been gradually acclimated to do evil regularly over time (boiling frog style) like many of the NAZI soldiers were.
(though he probably says the same somewhere i just don't know about it)

[AHZ]

Both excellent quotes from one of mankind's true treasures. Alexsander Salty Nixon.

[AHZ]

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good, or else that it's a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


ok here's one place where I'd dare to differ a bit from Solzhenitsyn.
I'd say the above is true unless they are psychopaths.
OR they've been gradually acclimated to do evil regularly over time (boiling frog style) like many of the NAZI soldiers were.

(though he probably says the same somewhere i just don't know about it)

that gradual acclimation to evil goes to the first part of the quote, where a man comes to be believe what's he's doing is good.

the mass murderer eugenicists of today have convinced people that making sure people die "allows evolution to occur" or some such darwinian / malthusian / luciferian nonsense.

or as some would say it "weeds out the losers".

"culling the herd" is another mass murderer phrase, when you use it about people.

this is naziism.

[icansayit]

No matter what your beliefs. Nor how you view any other human being.

FAITH...is the belief in the Unseen.
As our 1st Amendment declared: "We all have the Freedom of Religion. Nobody can change, or take that away."

To be honest with everyone here. It is NONE of anyone else's Business! Short and To The Point.

[revelarts]

No matter what your beliefs. Nor how you view any other human being.

FAITH...is the belief in the Unseen.
As our 1st Amendment declared: "We all have the Freedom of Religion. Nobody can change, or take that away."

To be honest with everyone here. It is NONE of anyone else's Business! Short and To The Point.

the 1st amendment that was taking it's CUE from what Roger Williams the puritan did in Rhode Island nearly 100 years earlier.
the only reason it's there is because of a religious persons conviction and understanding of God's POV from the Bible itself.

that Belief in that UNSEEN RIGHT comes from a belief in the UNSEEN God.

why are conservative people upset with me saying this?

[icansayit]

the 1st amendment that was taking it's CUE from what Roger Williams the puritan did in Rhode Island nearly 100 years earlier.
the only reason it's there is because of a religious persons conviction and understanding of God's POV from the Bible itself.

that Belief in that UNSEEN RIGHT comes from a belief in the UNSEEN God.

why are conservative people upset with me saying this?

What does MY being conservative have to do with anything? Did I sound upset?

That's why I insist..."IT'S NOBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS WHAT I BELIEVE OR HAVE FAITH IN!"

Many of us were taught, at a young age. Avoid talking about Religion and Politics. So...what do we do here?

[revelarts]

"You know how I stopped being faced by protesters at universities when i went to talked there?
I hold my talks at 8 oclock in the morning....."
Jordan Peterson