States need to start their own volunteer militia's!!

[ConHog]

Could you point them out to me?

BTW, EOs have been issued for a couple of hundred years now... but that's not new information now is it.

Didn't an executive order in fact free the northern slaves? Tyr hates executive orders ERGO Tyr wants to return us to the days of slavery.

[Kathianne]

Didn't an executive order in fact free the northern slaves? Tyr hates executive orders ERGO Tyr wants to return us to the days of slavery.

I never heard that. I've heard some try to claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an EO, which it wasn't, but even with that, it only 'freed' the slaves in the areas the Union didn't control. Please, a link to what you are referring to.

[Robert A Whit]

Should states that want to leave the union start their own volunteer militia's?
State funded and equipped with absolutely no federal money involved.. I think the answer is yes.
Each state needs a well funded militia , one that can stand against the federal government!--Tyr

Sure.

However this state has Gov. Jerry Brown as gov and he would veto that in a nano second.

Nor would he equip us. We would have to pay for it all ourselves in this case. And we would never be able to buy tanks or heavy weapons.

[ConHog]

I never heard that. I've heard some try to claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an EO, which it wasn't, but even with that, it only 'freed' the slaves in the areas the Union didn't control. Please, a link to what you are referring to.

I misstyped, of course I meant the Southern States.

And it certainly was an Executive Order, issued BY Lincoln ordering all military personal to free slaves as they came across them rather than return them to their masters.

[fj1200]

Didn't an executive order in fact free the northern slaves? Tyr hates executive orders ERGO Tyr wants to return us to the days of slavery.

No small stretch there.

I never heard that. I've heard some try to claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an EO, which it wasn't, but even with that, it only 'freed' the slaves in the areas the Union didn't control. Please, a link to what you are referring to.

One could argue...

The Emancipation Proclamation is an order issued to all segments of the Executive branch (including the Army and Navy) of the United States by President Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, during the American Civil War. It was based on the president's constitutional authority as commander in chief of the armed forces; it was not a law passed by Congress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation

Based on the above it's unlikely he had the authority to free the slaves in states that were not in rebellion.

[Robert A Whit]

Originally Posted by ConHog
Didn't an executive order in fact free the northern slaves? Tyr hates executive orders ERGO Tyr wants to return us to the days of slavery.

I never heard that. I've heard some try to claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an EO, which it wasn't, but even with that, it only 'freed' the slaves in the areas the Union didn't control. Please, a link to what you are referring to.

She hates me saying her name but her point is valid.

An EO applies only to federal employees as controlled by the one branch, the executive.

Many government workers do not work for Obama so they are exempt I believe.

For instance. Say he issues an executive order to your congressmans employees. I can't imagine such an order would stand the test of what prsidents can do.

[fj1200]

She hates me saying her name but her point is valid.

An EO applies only to federal employees as controlled by the one branch, the executive.

Many government workers do not work for Obama so they are exempt I believe.

For instance. Say he issues an executive order to your congressmans employees. I can't imagine such an order would stand the test of what prsidents can do.

Incorrect, it applies to Federal employees enforcement of Federal law or the POTUS direction in this case.

[ConHog]

No small stretch there.



One could argue...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation

Based on the above it's unlikely he had the authority to free the slaves in states that were not in rebellion.

I guess it would have had to have been labeled the Emancipation Executive Order to qualify LOL

[ConHog]

Originally Posted by ConHog
Didn't an executive order in fact free the northern slaves? Tyr hates executive orders ERGO Tyr wants to return us to the days of slavery.







She hates me saying her name but her point is valid.

An EO applies only to federal employees as controlled by the one branch, the executive.

Many government workers do not work for Obama so they are exempt I believe.

For instance. Say he issues an executive order to your congressmans employees. I can't imagine such an order would stand the test of what prsidents can do.

you are correct sir, and under who's authority does the military lie? Oops that's right, the executive branch.

want another example of an executive order applying to the military??

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/burghardt4.1.1.html

even half in the tank..................... eh never mind.

[fj1200]

I guess it would have had to have been labeled the Emancipation Executive Order to qualify LOL

No way, doesn't rhyme.

[ConHog]

No way, doesn't rhyme.

Good point, but what means free the black man , but rhymes with order?

[fj1200]

Good point, but what means free the black man , but rhymes with order?

[ConHog]

Bout as close as I can come is

Free the Nigger Order

that would have been tacky.

[fj1200]

That's a bad ConHog. Bad.

[ConHog]

That's a bad ConHog. Bad.

if you consider the times, it certainly wouldn't be surprising to have found the word nigger in a government document.