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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Lance View Post
    The obvious solution to your objections is that supernatural forces could be, and appear to sometimes be, capable of negating natural obstacles.
    It would be a solution but supernatural forces do not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    You trust a wisdom you don't have.
    My wisdom doesn't come from a fairy tale book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    My wisdom doesn't come from a fairy tale book.
    true .... you seem to just make shit up.....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    true .... you seem to just make shit up.....
    Very good insult!
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    It would be a solution but supernatural forces do not exist.
    And you know that because.... ? So far you have listed nothing beyond a vague intuition, which is no substitute for reasoned thought.
    "Let me at least not die without a struggle, inglorious, but having done some big thing first, for men to come to know of." - Hector

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Where are the physics that make a sea part? I call that knowledge.
    Perhaps a man flying like a plane with 300 tons on his back is more factual for you? I trust boeing!
    I actually watched a show on the History Channel that suggested that it wasn't the "Red Sea" but the "Sea of Reeds" (they believed it to be a mistranslation) which is a shallow near the coast in Egypt. They showed that a volcanic eruption across the Mediterranean sea could cause what appeared to be a "parting" of the "Sea of Reeds".

    They were even able to show how certain time periods the plagues could be caused by nature as well.

    It was a fascinating show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No1tovote4 View Post
    I actually watched a show on the History Channel that suggested that it wasn't the "Red Sea" but the "Sea of Reeds" (they believed it to be a mistranslation) which is a shallow near the coast in Egypt. They showed that a volcanic eruption across the Mediterranean sea could cause what appeared to be a "parting" of the "Sea of Reeds".

    They were even able to show how certain time periods the plagues could be caused by nature as well.

    It was a fascinating show.
    The Angel of Death killing every first-born male doesn't sound like a natural occurrence to me.
    "Let me at least not die without a struggle, inglorious, but having done some big thing first, for men to come to know of." - Hector

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Lance View Post
    The Angel of Death killing every first-born male doesn't sound like a natural occurrence to me.
    It could be a disease though. Described as such. There was some specific bug that came with the frogs or something. I'd have to watch the show again. It was a long time ago. It was extremely well done and they showed how a flood caused by rain in an exact area upriver could cause the water to be red like blood, that the drainage would cause... It was a chain reaction type of thing.

    I'll see if I can find the link. It was a good show.

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    Regardless of how well-produced your documentary may be, my point still stands: I don't know of many diseases in nature that only kill first-born males.
    "Let me at least not die without a struggle, inglorious, but having done some big thing first, for men to come to know of." - Hector

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Lance View Post
    And you know that because.... ? So far you have listed nothing beyond a vague intuition, which is no substitute for reasoned thought.
    Reasoned thought does not include any room for supernatural anything! The most basic of physics understanding should allow you to comprehend gravity and molecular pull. If you need more than that to understand I can not help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No1tovote4 View Post
    I actually watched a show on the History Channel that suggested that it wasn't the "Red Sea" but the "Sea of Reeds" (they believed it to be a mistranslation) which is a shallow near the coast in Egypt. They showed that a volcanic eruption across the Mediterranean sea could cause what appeared to be a "parting" of the "Sea of Reeds".

    They were even able to show how certain time periods the plagues could be caused by nature as well.

    It was a fascinating show.
    When it comes to a book called bible there are many errors in translation. What you describe is a plauseble truth to base an exaggeration on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    When it comes to a book called bible there are many errors in translation.
    very few, actually, and many were corrected following the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Reasoned thought does not include any room for supernatural anything!
    how silly.....any thought which precludes the possibility of a supernatural is hardly "reasoned"......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    It would be a solution but supernatural forces do not exist.
    that's an interesting theory.....how do you propose to provide proof for it?.......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    My wisdom doesn't come from a fairy tale book.
    Really? You couldn't tell it from the hostility you evidence towards the God of Heaven. Maybe it comes from delusion or some kind of substance addiction?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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