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    Quote Originally Posted by Papokarlo View Post
    Russia likes President Trump, we love him, we like his politics. It's the truth. we kind of worried for him.
    Really ?

    I've a funny feeling that this will evaporate in the coming days and weeks. President Trump is proving to be a staunch ally in the Salisbury chemical poisoning matter.

    I like the idea of us all finding common ground 'as friends and citizens', as has been suggested. All well and good.

    You could start by showing us an open mind when it comes to criminal chemical weapon deployment. Accept that, when it's finally IRREFUTABLY proven beyond any possible shadow of a doubt that Russia is responsible, justice needs to be meted out to all who hold responsibility.

    If - as I believe - this includes Putin himself - will you be openly critical of your leader ? Will you think that he needs to shoulder responsibility for his actions ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Really ?

    I've a funny feeling that this will evaporate in the coming days and weeks. President Trump is proving to be a staunch ally in the Salisbury chemical poisoning matter.

    I like the idea of us all finding common ground 'as friends and citizens', as has been suggested. All well and good.

    You could start by showing us an open mind when it comes to criminal chemical weapon deployment. Accept that, when it's finally IRREFUTABLY proven beyond any possible shadow of a doubt that Russia is responsible, justice needs to be meted out to all who hold responsibility.

    If - as I believe - this includes Putin himself - will you be openly critical of your leader ? Will you think that he needs to shoulder responsibility for his actions ?

    I can criticize Putin without problems, there are no problems. perhaps a large part of Russia wanted to Trump became President.

    as for chemical weapons. believe me, no evidence will be provided. Will only the headlines that Russia is again guilty of something. Pay attention to when the offences investigated by the Russia before she collects the facts and then publicly accuse someone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papokarlo View Post
    I can criticize Putin without problems, there are no problems. perhaps a large part of Russia wanted to Trump became President.

    as for chemical weapons. believe me, no evidence will be provided. Will only the headlines that Russia is again guilty of something. Pay attention to when the offences investigated by the Russia before she collects the facts and then publicly accuse someone
    Stall tactic. The UK has no reason to but a lot of face to lose by claiming it has something it does not.

    Was your arrogant self aware that chemical weapons leave a distinct footprint as traceable to one source as a fingerprint? Thing about arrogance ... pointless and BASELESS displayed pride based on insecurity which is exposed to everyone except the person displaying it. Arrogant people think they're so much smarter than everyone else that no one can see what they are doing when the very nature of their arrogance causes them to be sloppy and not bother covering their tracks as they think no one else is msart enough to see them.

    Like using a Soviet-produced, weapons grade chemical agent to attack a civilian as if it would go unnoticed.

    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Stall tactic. The UK has no reason to but a lot of face to lose by claiming it has something it does not.

    Was your arrogant self aware that chemical weapons leave a distinct footprint as traceable to one source as a fingerprint? Thing about arrogance ... pointless and BASELESS displayed pride based on insecurity which is exposed to everyone except the person displaying it. Arrogant people think they're so much smarter than everyone else that no one can see what they are doing when the very nature of their arrogance causes them to be sloppy and not bother covering their tracks as they think no one else is msart enough to see them.

    Like using a Soviet-produced, weapons grade chemical agent to attack a civilian as if it would go unnoticed.

    Just a thought.
    where's the evidence that there was a print of"Novichok"? Only headlines, Only statements by the government. While I haven't seen the evidence)) and I think it's funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papokarlo View Post
    where's the evidence that there was a print of"Novichok"? Only headlines, Only statements by the government. While I haven't seen the evidence)) and I think it's funny
    You're repeating yourself. The UK has agreed to provide a sample to the UN. Simple as THAT. You demanding concrete evidence right this minute continuously isn't going to hasten that up a bit. You can play your little game of demanding the evidence now, chiding the accusers and whatever, and it STILL isn't going to change a thing.

    A wise man would shut his mouth and wait for the results. I am quite sure instead, you are thinking up all kinds of reason "why not"/denials when concrete evidence is put right in your face. The humor in this? You guys suck at this game. You need to get with our Democratic party on how to play it. Stall, use the media, stall again, and keep stalling and denying until something else comes along to capture the public's attention and this will be forgotten.

    I think you overstepped this time. Brits don't like to forget things. And you know why I give them the benefit of doubt? The Brits usually don't accuse anyone of anything and don't even want to offend their own shadows. When they come out with a point blank accusation, it tends to get noticed. That's how it works when you don't sit around crying wolf every other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You're repeating yourself. The UK has agreed to provide a sample to the UN. Simple as THAT. You demanding concrete evidence right this minute continuously isn't going to hasten that up a bit. You can play your little game of demanding the evidence now, chiding the accusers and whatever, and it STILL isn't going to change a thing.

    A wise man would shut his mouth and wait for the results. I am quite sure instead, you are thinking up all kinds of reason "why not"/denials when concrete evidence is put right in your face. The humor in this? You guys suck at this game. You need to get with our Democratic party on how to play it. Stall, use the media, stall again, and keep stalling and denying until something else comes along to capture the public's attention and this will be forgotten.

    I think you overstepped this time. Brits don't like to forget things. And you know why I give them the benefit of doubt? The Brits usually don't accuse anyone of anything and don't even want to offend their own shadows. When they come out with a point blank accusation, it tends to get noticed. That's how it works when you don't sit around crying wolf every other day.
    Britain even references to provide samples, an imprint of this substance. there even a corpse from a crime scene didn't take away, and already all speak that it is Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papokarlo View Post
    Britain even references to provide samples, an imprint of this substance. there even a corpse from a crime scene didn't take away, and already all speak that it is Russia.
    Again, you are incorrect. Besides posting on the same topic in 2 separate threads. The UK has levied the accusation, says it has evidence and says it is willing to present that evidence to the UN. I am not "everybody", the UK, nor especially not the UN. Nor am I the media.

    I am discussing the issue and Russia looks guilty as Hell based on the evidence. That is my opinion for the moment. When and if it is proven otherwise, I will adjust my opinion accordingly.
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