He's not making a point. Everyone knows blacks have a double standard about the word. The board does not. If rev was using the word to insult others, or another black member was using it, I would have the same reaction. This a case of exactly what rev is doing with the c-word .... trying to wordsmith out of context a wrong into a right.
Completely irrelevant to using it to insult a member of the board. You pay attention more than you like to let on so you KNOW I generally disagree with rev. I don't need a racial slur to win and I sure as Hell don't want some visitor looking this place over and seeing THAT. Not like we got standing room only and a line waiting to get in.
It's not like he wears his skin color under everyone's noses. I've known him for years I didn't even know he was black. Just a little screwy. That doesn't come in colors.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
A reminder to all:
The board literally prohibits the use of the "c" word. Jim has stated in the past, and I 100% agree, that it is unacceptable to try to get around that by typing slight variations of the word. Including leaving out just one letter. If you must reference the word, as I just had to, one letter is sufficient. Really, we get it. And by no means will we allow anyone here to be called this word, regardless of spelling.
If you have a problem with other words being allowed, please let staff know in a PM. I'm really not interested in having a debate right here over which words should be prohibited.
After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown
“Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
-Abbey
The only word banned here is the C word. Society has determind that the C word was reprehensible, and it's not often used in the USA, other than to truly insult someone. There's no valid use of it, not even part of a discussion or news article and certainly not in today's music culture. It's loosely used to describe a part of a woman's anatomy, and is considered disgusting and degrading by all walks of American life. The ban went back long prior to DP even.
The N word is not banned. Maybe we'll someday see this word treated the same as the other vulgar word. Right now, there seems to be too much use of it to go away anytime soon. The N word is NOT to ever be used here as a name to call anyone on this board. It really shouldn't even be used to call folks outside of the board. My thoughts have always been that it can be used as part of a discussion. There have been many articles over the years using the word, although not mainstream. Discussion about music, and of course about society, culture and comparisons. For example, the video/event I spoke of where a rap star called a white woman on stage to participate in his song, but then stopped the music and called her out for using the N word. I still wouldn't use it, but I can see if someone posted lyrics for example as part of such a story.
I think the majority of society has also deemed this word quite offensive. It's obviously used many times to call someone names. If/when that happens, it is unacceptable, IMO. Discussion is one thing, but name calling with such a word would be totally different.
The argument between HPD and Rev is not my beef. As to an apology, one has to want to give that on their own.
What I will say, is that it's unfortunate and sad that Rev is black and feels like he's attacked with such a word, and I DO NOT want that, ever. I can disagree with Rev, even on racial discussions, and not use such a word in front of him. That's respect to him, and also myself.
I DO understand some being angry at the double standard. I understand where it comes from and I don't have an answer. But there's certainly no need for any of us to go out of our way to use the word, knowing it's offensive. And if not, we all know now about Revelarts being black. And whether folks disagree with him vehemently and passionately on any subject out there - he certainly doesn't go out of his way to use offensive terms. Those that should be questioned are those that put it out there in the music for their fans & perhaps those that freely use the word.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock