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    Quote Originally Posted by Classact View Post
    Is the US Constitution based on secular, Judeo-Christian values or Social Darwin theory?

    I believe the US Constitution, as amended is based on Judeo-Christian values which supports a free market capitalism system based on Social Darwinist's form of government.

    The constitution itself without the amendments is a stand alone proof of Social Darwinist's value... the amendments added shortly after represent Judeo-Christian values.

    Do you agree or disagree and why?
    Since the Constitution starts off with "to secure the Blessings of Liberty" and ends with "The Year of Our Lord", it is fairly obvious that the basis is Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Since the Constitution starts off with "to secure the Blessings of Liberty" and ends with "The Year of Our Lord", it is fairly obvious that the basis is Christianity.
    Main Entry: spe·cious
    Pronunciation: \ˈspē-shəs\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Middle English, visually pleasing, from Latin speciosus beautiful, plausible, from species
    Date: 1513
    1<i> obsolete</i> : showy
    2: having deceptive attraction or allure
    3: having a false look of truth or genuineness : sophistic [<i>specious</i> reasoning]
    "... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOki View Post
    Main Entry: spe·cious
    Pronunciation: \ˈspē-shəs\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Middle English, visually pleasing, from Latin speciosus beautiful, plausible, from species
    Date: 1513
    1<i> obsolete</i> : showy
    2: having deceptive attraction or allure
    3: having a false look of truth or genuineness : sophistic [<i>specious</i> reasoning]
    Deflection. Look it up yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Deflection. Look it up yourself.
    Securing "the Blessings of Liberty" is not the same thing as securing "the Blessings of Christ", and using the idomatic convention "The Year of Our Lord" to establish the date of an event is not the same as an establisng principle. Your argument is specious, and pointing that out is not deflecting.
    "... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOki View Post
    Securing "the Blessings of Liberty" is not the same thing as securing "the Blessings of Christ", and using the idomatic convention "The Year of Our Lord" to establish the date of an event is not the same as an establisng principle. Your argument is specious, and pointing that out is not deflecting.
    If not from Christ then from where? Why not simply "The Year", or "Dated"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    If not from Christ then from where?
    Christ is not mentioned, Christ does not enter the equation; the Blessings that are secured, are Blessings that come from Liberty--exactly as it it written.

    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Why not simply "The Year", or "Dated"?
    Deflection--your turn to look it up.
    "... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOki View Post
    Christ is not mentioned, Christ does not enter the equation; the Blessings that are secured, are Blessings that come from Liberty--exactly as it it written.

    Deflection--your turn to look it up.
    Its clear that it is you who is deflecting now.

    If Christ is not mentioned, then who is "The Lord"?

    The preamble states the reasons for drafting the Constitution include “in Order to… secure the Blessings of Liberty…” Again, who gave those Blessings?

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