Black Kid killed for being black

[Mr. P]

No one knows who instigated it. The GF says she was on the phone with Tray when he was approached by Zimmerman and his headset went dead when it was knocked off his head.

Sounds to me like Zimmerman went after Martin and then executed him when Tray did a good job defending himself.
Only under limited circumstances can an aggressor resort to self-defense. Such situations occur when a person responds to the aggressor's force so disproportionally that it would cause a reasonable person to fear for their life; or when an aggressor renounces the attack but the victim continues to use force. However, under either scenario, the aggressor has a duty to retreat. If we examine the confrontation in this light, it is abundantly clear that George Zimmerman was the aggressor and his use of force was excessive.

Being punched about the face and receiving a bloody nose is insufficient justification to use deadly physical force.


Stand Your Ground was never envisioned to allow someone to pursue and confront people like they are the police. If anyone could have invoked "Stand Your Ground," it was Trayvon. Unfortunately, we will never hear his side of the story.

You stand with Zimmerman, the executioner, and I stand with Martin, the deceased victim.

Oh, HELL KNOW IT'S NOT abundantly clear ! That's the whole problem here. Don't ya get it, maybe just alittle bit?

[Wind Song]

Really? You posted:

No bias on your part, right?

You do understand the difference between facts and your inferences/opinions, right? Wrong. Yeah, the question was rhetorical.

I have no problem with my bias. I'm definitely biased in favor of the 17 year old kid who was senselessly slain.

[Wind Song]

Oh, HELL KNOW IT'S NOT abundantly clear ! That's the whole problem here. Don't ya get it, maybe just alittle bit?

I get that racism is difficult to prove. Fuck it takes some black man being dragged in a truck to death for anyone to see the racism.

This eye witness says Zimmerman was the aggressor.
http://latinorebels.com/2012/04/07/e...the-aggressor/

[Mr. P]

I get that racism is difficult to prove. Fuck it takes some black man being dragged in a truck to death for anyone to see the racism.

That's NOT "RACISM". I am thinking you don't know or can define the true definition of "Racism". You're not alone, most liberals or those who toss the term freely can't either.

[Wind Song]

That's NOT "RACISM". I am thinking you don't know or can define the true definition of "Racism". You're not alone, most liberals or those who toss the term freely can't either.

Oh, I see. A black man being dragged to death in a truck by two white bigots isn't racism? What is racism? In your narrow mind.

Google James Byrd.

[Kathianne]

Oh, I see. A black man being dragged to death in a truck by two white bigots isn't racism? What is racism? In your narrow mind.

Google James Byrd.

Is this a 'perhaps happened sometime' or a specific example that's a fact?

[Wind Song]

Is this a 'perhaps happened sometime' or a specific example that's a fact?

You think racism doesn't exist. Right?

Google Brandon McClelland.

You're opposed to hate crime legislation, right?

[Kathianne]

You think racism doesn't exist. Right?

Google Brandon McClelland.

You're opposed to hate crime legislation, right?

Get a grip. I never said anything of the sort that racism doesn't exist. Totally off point and Jim would be right in banning you from this thread as well.

You are in favor of hate crime legislation regarding minority on majority too? If not, you are a racist.

[Wind Song]

Get a grip. I never said anything of the sort that racism doesn't exist. Totally off point and Jim would be right in banning you from this thread as well.

You are in favor of hate crime legislation regarding minority on majority too? If not, you are a racist.

Hate crime law protects everyone. Sorry to disappoint you, but if a black targeted a white to kill, b/c he was white I would want to see him prosecuted under hate crime law.

Let Jim ban me. I could care less. I don't belong here anyway.

[Mr. P]

Oh, I see. A black man being dragged to death in a truck by two white bigots isn't racism? What is racism? In your narrow mind.

Google James Byrd.

LMAO! No, you don't see. That's murder by bigots. I live in da South babe, been here all my life. You ain't got a clue what racism is. Racism for one like you is nothing close to reality nor truth. Like I said you're NOT alone. Look it up, as you like to tell so many others to do. Maybe you'll expand that itty bitty liberal mind. Matters not to me.

[Wind Song]

LMAO! No, you don't see. That's murder by bigots. I live in da South babe, been here all my life. You ain't got a clue what racism is. Racism for one like you is nothing close to reality nor truth. Like I said you're NOT alone. Look it up, as you like to tell so many others to do. Maybe you'll expand that itty bitty liberal mind. Matters not to me.

Listen Mr P. Whatever P stands for. I know what racism is.

[jimnyc]

I get that racism is difficult to prove. Fuck it takes some black man being dragged in a truck to death for anyone to see the racism.

This eye witness says Zimmerman was the aggressor.
http://latinorebels.com/2012/04/07/e...the-aggressor/

Yeah, this witness "feels" it was the boy she heard. Take that, versus the man who SAW Martin on top of Zimm and SAW Martin bashing his head on the ground and SAW while he heard Zimm pleading for help.

[jimnyc]

Hate crime law protects everyone. Sorry to disappoint you, but if a black targeted a white to kill, b/c he was white I would want to see him prosecuted under hate crime law.

Let Jim ban me. I could care less. I don't belong here anyway.

How much less could you care?

If you don't like it here, why do you come here? Are you trolling?

[Mr. P]

Listen Mr P. Whatever P stands for. I know what racism is.

No, from what I've seen you post...You have no clue. Just sayin

[Wind Song]

Yeah, this witness "feels" it was the boy she heard. Take that, versus the man who SAW Martin on top of Zimm and SAW Martin bashing his head on the ground and SAW while he heard Zimm pleading for help.

Jim if you're unable to understand that witness testimony about this case varies, then I can't help you.