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    Default The World Government Summit

    Annnnnnd another "Conspiracy Theory" boldly takes off it's cloak and declares it's actually "Conspiracy Fact".

    Economist at 'World Government Summit'
    Among the things discussed but these elitist who think they run the world.


    "New Financial World Order About to Shift In Dramatic New Direction... digital currency to track every purchase.." among other things
    • A moderator ask the panelist unironically "are you ready for a new world order?"
    "We're already in WW3... for at least 4 years"
    • the Chinese are showing the way for digital ID & finances ....
    Secretary-General's video message to the World Government Summit
    Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen,
    Let me start by congratulating the government and people of the UAE for so impressively hosting Expo 2020 under such challenging circumstances
    You have brought the world together around the theme of connecting minds and creating the future with a focus on the Sustainable Development Goals.
    That is very much the spirit of this World Government Summit.

    Since 2013, the World Government Summit has drawn innovative thinkers and decisionmakers to Dubai to explore pathways to a better future for all humanity.

    Your theme — “Shaping the Future of Governments” — is an important opportunity to discuss how governments can better respond to the needs of their people, and the planet we all share, at this challenging moment in history.
    This year, you meet when hope is in short supply.
    When mistrust, divisions and fear are growing.
    When global recovery and the Sustainable Development Goals are slipping farther from reach.
    And when the solutions to the challenges facing our world seem more distant than ever.
    Governments are called upon to address these struggles head-on.
    For their own people, but also for our common future.
    And do so in solidarity — as a global family.
    https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg/...ernment-summit


    IN Related news
    In off-the-cuff remarks at a recent meeting of the Business Roundtable, President Biden said, “There’s going to be a new world order out there, and we’ve got to lead it.”
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    https://archive.ph/F2n49#selection-3841.0-3843.148

    So Alex Jones get's another 1, 2 ,3... 7 dollars in the jar for times he's been right.

    GLOBALIST Elites
    meet to plan World Gov't,
    a new currency,
    a cashless digital currency,
    track all transactions world wide,
    China is a model
    All without the consent or consultation of the people.
    All without regard to the U.S. congress, U.S. laws or U.S. constitution.

    I'm guessing most of you have been aware of this
    but i'm guessing the hard part to swallow at this point is that the elites are made up of people that are/have worked with both Democrats and Republicans....For Decades.
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    I think this is still relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I just don't see what you see. We can both look at post WWII history and see the growth of international organizations, partnerships, global corporations, etc. and see completely different things. I see liberalization of global trade that will benefit everyone who chooses to take part and you see coalitions of organizations to take power away from the people. The thing is that I look at the benefits that have come to the world with increased freedoms for billions of people with increases in almost any measure of economic advancement... I don't know if you agree with that last sentence or not but it is not a logical conclusion to me that all of this liberalization has been granted until the rug gets pulled out from underneath the whole thing. All due respect I just don't see that.
    Not to say that the WGS isn't a fantastical pile of crap which I predict goes nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I think this is still relevant.



    Not to say that the WGS isn't a fantastical pile of crap which I predict goes nowhere.
    I see your argument. I also see Rev's. Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. How many bureaucracies are there in the World that exist just to tell the World what to do? Global trade and opportunity is great. People inventing positions to tell others how they can or can't do it not so much.

    Russia-Ukraine has put a spotlight on some of it to me because I check out the Euro news. Just off the top ... UN, NATO, EU, European Commission, G-20, The World Court ... I'm sure that's just the part of the iceberg we can see. All designed to accomplish nothing but get a cut of the profits from your aforementioned trade and opportunity.

    That it's all one big conspiracy is giving selfish, greedy people who don't want to work WAY too much credit. Coincidence DOES matter when it leads to the same result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I see your argument. I also see Rev's. Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. How many bureaucracies are there in the World that exist just to tell the World what to do? Global trade and opportunity is great. People inventing positions to tell others how they can or can't do it not so much.

    Russia-Ukraine has put a spotlight on some of it to me because I check out the Euro news. Just off the top ... UN, NATO, EU, European Commission, G-20, The World Court ... I'm sure that's just the part of the iceberg we can see. All designed to accomplish nothing but get a cut of the profits from your aforementioned trade and opportunity.

    That it's all one big conspiracy is giving selfish, greedy people who don't want to work WAY too much credit. Coincidence DOES matter when it leads to the same result.
    I'm not sure that's his argument though. I don't dispute that power corrupts. I don't dispute that there are bureaucratic windbags. My issue is that either these insitutions are so inept that they've failed, for close to 80 years now, to impose their governmental control on the world to the detriment of countries who choose liberalized economies; or that they've been controlling things so much that those countries that have liberalized their economies will have all their economic gains wiped out when the powers that be impose massive controls. The latter making no logical sense.

    Do I like many of those institutions? Not any more than I like government regulations getting in the way but sometimes organizations are useful; domestic court systems are useful and sometimes necessary as the WTO is useful and sometimes necessary for example. If we're going to be a globalized country then sometimes we need to make globalized agreements and all that is part of that.

    But I'll say again, bureaucratic windbags suck though I think they are largely a non-issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not sure that's his argument though. I don't dispute that power corrupts. I don't dispute that there are bureaucratic windbags. My issue is that either these insitutions are so inept that they've failed, for close to 80 years now, to impose their governmental control on the world to the detriment of countries who choose liberalized economies; or that they've been controlling things so much that those countries that have liberalized their economies will have all their economic gains wiped out when the powers that be impose massive controls. The latter making no logical sense.

    Do I like many of those institutions? Not any more than I like government regulations getting in the way but sometimes organizations are useful; domestic court systems are useful and sometimes necessary as the WTO is useful and sometimes necessary for example. If we're going to be a globalized country then sometimes we need to make globalized agreements and all that is part of that.

    But I'll say again, bureaucratic windbags suck though I think they are largely a non-issue.
    The fine print is in the "globalized agreements".

    Look at what it's done to Europe in the wake of Putin's invasion. The EU has been all over Russian gas and oil and some more than others have been willing to sell out Ukraine to invasion (while stating otherwise grandstanding on the tube) because they have made themselves vulnerable to the enemy. That's been my biggest bitch about the US.

    IMO, we do not need to be so far underwater in foreign trade we cannot be self-sufficient. Dependency is ALWAYS a weakness and sooner or later someone's going to come along to exploit it. All of this Euro-Russia trade (and US - China for that matter) is supposedly made in good faith with bad actors.

    Ending up on the short end of the stick sucks. We can be part of the global community at arm's length, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The fine print is in the "globalized agreements".

    Look at what it's done to Europe in the wake of Putin's invasion. The EU has been all over Russian gas and oil and some more than others have been willing to sell out Ukraine to invasion (while stating otherwise grandstanding on the tube) because they have made themselves vulnerable to the enemy. That's been my biggest bitch about the US.

    IMO, we do not need to be so far underwater in foreign trade we cannot be self-sufficient. Dependency is ALWAYS a weakness and sooner or later someone's going to come along to exploit it. All of this Euro-Russia trade (and US - China for that matter) is supposedly made in good faith with bad actors.

    Ending up on the short end of the stick sucks. We can be part of the global community at arm's length, IMO.
    I disagree that we are under water but we've had that discussion in the past. And I don't think warring nations are germaine to this discussion but I take your point. We can make global agreements and be subjected to supranational organizations but we can't pick and choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I disagree that we are under water but we've had that discussion in the past. And I don't think warring nations are germaine to this discussion but I take your point. We can make global agreements and be subjected to supranational organizations but we can't pick and choose.
    Why not?

    Why are we considering a treaty to give up our decision to act on health issues to the WHO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I disagree that we are under water but we've had that discussion in the past. And I don't think warring nations are germaine to this discussion but I take your point. We can make global agreements and be subjected to supranational organizations but we can't pick and choose.
    If our economy/lifestyles/what-all can be affected by "Putin cutting off our oil" (example), we're sinking below the surface. If China was to suddenly cut all ties with us, it would take us a decade or more to recover, and probably a war.

    Yes it would be stupid on their part just as it was stupid on Putin's part. Russia is paying a high price. So you can't say "never". China is openly hostile to us and if it was in the position to do something about is, it would.

    Warring nations are the extreme, but germaine simply because non-warring nations generally aren't cutting off trade. Except us. We use it as punishment for any and everything.

    Look at the two biggest products this war has affected: Gas/oil and wheat. His stupid little war is screwing up the entire World. Allowing people to have that kind of leverage over you is a definite weakness to be exploited. As Putin is doing.

    And yes, I am aware we don't agree when it comes to globalization. Being at the mercy of the US Government is bad enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Why not?

    Why are we considering a treaty to give up our decision to act on health issues to the WHO?
    Because if you enter into a free-trade treaty that has particular enforcement provisions don't start to complain about the enforcement provisions. If you don't like the enforcement provisions, exit the treaty.

    I'm not aware of a pending treaty with the WHO being taken up by the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    If our economy/lifestyles/what-all can be affected by "Putin cutting off our oil" (example), we're sinking below the surface. If China was to suddenly cut all ties with us, it would take us a decade or more to recover, and probably a war.

    Yes it would be stupid on their part just as it was stupid on Putin's part. Russia is paying a high price. So you can't say "never". China is openly hostile to us and if it was in the position to do something about is, it would.

    Warring nations are the extreme, but germaine simply because non-warring nations generally aren't cutting off trade. Except us. We use it as punishment for any and everything.

    Look at the two biggest products this war has affected: Gas/oil and wheat. His stupid little war is screwing up the entire World. Allowing people to have that kind of leverage over you is a definite weakness to be exploited. As Putin is doing.

    And yes, I am aware we don't agree when it comes to globalization. Being at the mercy of the US Government is bad enough.
    Very true.

    To the rest, I'm not saying we don't take those things into account but generally free trade is good. We're certainly in a better position due to our size and generally good relations with the rest of the world. Smaller countries with less available resources are more likely to suffer.
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    Been a long time coming

    The Late Congressman Larry McDonald on Crossfire in 1983 Discusses the NWO

    Last edited by revelarts; 05-12-2022 at 11:25 AM.
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    ^Haven't seen Pat Buchanan in a minute. Nevertheless we're no closer now than then let alone 1947.
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    Are we giving up our sovereignty to W.H.O.?

    https://www.americaoutloud.com/biden...eignty-to-who/
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^Haven't seen Pat Buchanan in a minute. Nevertheless we're no closer now than then let alone 1947.
    Well at least we've moved from
    ...."world gov't is a crazy conspiracy theory!"
    to what sounds like...
    ...-Well it is real .... and it's been worked on since 1947 ....but it's still no closer to happening than the 1940's, so who cares.-

    That is a move in the direction of reality.
    But I have to say either you're being willingly blind or simply not looking at the larger picture.

    Those in favor of world gov't have created various parts of the system they've outlined.
    starting with the UN
    then the EU,
    and the Euro
    making moves toward a world digital currency
    They've Expanded NATO
    Made China an integrated part of the world economy,
    created the AU/African Union
    Expanding treaties & trade agreements (via the UN & others) including:
    the World Trade Organization (WTO) rules
    NAFTA (now the USMCA)
    Global "climate" treaties
    Global "Food Code" The Codex Alimentarius
    Still Pushing the TPP
    The patch work acceptance world wide of things like Agenda 21/30 for land use
    And a World Court

    just to name a few ways they moved the ball FJ.

    This Years WORLD GOVERNMENT SUMMIT is just another stepping stone to what they want.
    It's not some small biz 2 or 3 year plan they're working on. And like any plan it morphs as it's played out.

    You can pretend to yourself that it's nothing to worry about but don't try to con us into thinking it's not happening.
    To anyone deciding to pay attention it's like watching vines grow over a neglected mansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well at least we've moved from
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    Then you completely misread my post. My quote from another thread still stands unreplied to. I also have no idea why you think trade agreements are evidence of one world government.
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