Ten Years After

[Kathianne]

I didn't say anything about either? But regardless, I find NO excuse in this world for someone to rape another person, for example. I don't care if they were raised an nurtured as such or whatever. Unless they are mentally retarded and have no clue about laws in this world.

Ok. Seems to me that one can have a discussion, but it takes more than 1. I'm not arguing semantics, certainly don't think you are a racists, so doubt I called you one. But whatever, I'm out of this one.

[Black Diamond]

I don't care, I'd rather speak about issues and facts than play word games and semantics.

No Bubba today? Sounds good.

[fj1200]

I'm not going to argue for the sake of it, nor about the word if. I simply stated that there are in fact blacks out there that hate white folks with a venom. I further stated that you have whites that are the same. I added in that I believe it's kinda taboo to discuss some issues about the blacks though.

I defined nothing. Again, I'm talking about simply posting a list of stats, and already being declared a racist for doing so. Don't make it more confusing and be and advocate for things I haven't brought up or stated.

Oh, and "if all you see is someone's color" - again trying to make it sound as if someone said that, or that I did, and making it sound racist. But I never said anything like that. But I am glad that you wrote that, as it's a great example of what happens. But I know, you said IF all you say

When I say that you said something I'll say that you said something. But I'll say it again; IF you think blacks are inferior THEN you are a racist.

No, it's correct, but not surprising that you might find excuses for rape, murder or similar.

I haven't excused anything. I'm only stating a fact that race is not the determining factor; do you disagree with Sowell, Horowitz, Heritage, Coulter, etc?

[fj1200]

I don't care, I'd rather speak about issues and facts than play word games and semantics.

That's all I'm talking about.

[Black Diamond]

When I say that you said something I'll say that you said something. But I'll say it again; IF you think blacks are inferior THEN you are a racist.



I haven't excused anything. I'm only stating a fact that race is not the determining factor; do you disagree with Sowell, Horowitz, Heritage, Coulter, etc?

What if someone says black culture is inferior?

[jimnyc]

it's the cops' fault.

always.

[fj1200]

What if someone says black culture is inferior?

That would make you a culturist. If that's your long way around to say the same thing then it's just the long way around. I prefer to say the "welfare culture" is inferior and that isn't a race-based statement and indicts the correct group; liberal busybodies.

[jimnyc]

Ok. Seems to me that one can have a discussion, but it takes more than 1. I'm not arguing semantics, certainly don't think you are a racists, so doubt I called you one. But whatever, I'm out of this one.

Huh, what are you talking about? I pointed out that I wasn't speaking about any of the words you brought up, so it confused me. Then I made a comment about how I feel there simply are no excuses for rape/murder or other violent crimes. And that's somehow something about how only one can have a discussion? I said nothing at all to you about semantics. Never said you thought I was racist or called me one. And now you say you're leaving the thread? I'm sorry that you felt I magically said things that I simply didn't write to you. Or that me writing that I felt there were no excuses, somehow limits you? But at the very least, don't claim anything about semantics when it was never said to you, nor somehow state that I wrote you think/called me a racist, when I said no such thing.

Again, the blinding hatred over some things, and I'm not even sure you read my posts entirely before responding. But how about pointing out where I said anything to you about semantics, or where I made a claim of you calling me a racist? That would be just great for starters.

[jimnyc]

When I say that you said something I'll say that you said something. But I'll say it again; IF you think blacks are inferior THEN you are a racist.



I haven't excused anything. I'm only stating a fact that race is not the determining factor; do you disagree with Sowell, Horowitz, Heritage, Coulter, etc?

Sorry, I don't read any of their stuff, don't want to, never brought them up in this thread, and my comments stand alone.

[fj1200]

Sorry, I don't read any of their stuff, don't want to, never brought them up in this thread, and my comments stand alone.

Conservative thinkers and institutions that disprove your posit?

[jimnyc]

Conservative thinkers and institutions that disprove your posit?

Unlike yourself, I think for myself and don't need pundits to prove or disprove my opinions.

[Black Diamond]

I will remember this post nect February when it's black history month, the next time the black caucus meets, the next time I see a billboard for the united negro college fund, etc.

And how could I forget black lives matter?

[jimnyc]

And how could I forget black lives matter?

Maybe you were too busy looking into the 10x more lives that were snuffed out, while they protested about violence while being violent?

[LongTermGuy]

Perhaps to state it in a manner that makes it sound like all blacks hate whites with venom. I don't believe that either. But there are a shitload that do hate in that way, and yep there are whites that do the same. Obviously we hear about white racism and hatred almost on a daily basis. I don't hear the same about the black racism and hatred. There are obviously racists from both sides, but it's been kinda taboo to speak such about black folks, as pretty much anything you say, and you will get labeled a racist in return. Discuss crime, and many will call you a racist. And save it, I'm not talking about reasons and such, just any talk in general about black crime and you're guilty. Speak about black racism and you're wrong, or racist yourself.

The fact is, there are racists from all walks of life, just as there is hatred. And no subject or race should be so taboo to where someone is condemned for speaking about it.

So there ARE black racists that hate whites with a venom, so it's really not that ridiculous, other than to perhaps imply that ALL of them do.

[fj1200]

Unlike yourself, I think for myself and don't need pundits to prove or disprove my opinions.

Who said anything about pundits? I reference research that validates my stance. Sowell has a doctorate in economics, Heritage is a recognized conservative research and education think tank...

It's amazing that every time this discussion comes up and I back my position with conservative links the silence is deafening.