Anybody Ever Heard of KRATOM?

[Gunny]

I will not touch anything like that. I am sensitive to cocaine but
felt no effects of vicodin 250mg after 3 surgeries. Darvon flat
knocked me out! Took it for a muscle insert tear behind my ear in football.

Everyone's body chemistry is different.

I'd say so. I can't take opiates. I turn into Superman. I'll tear up a gym and go all day lifting heavy.

Then you wake up next day and your body is sending a message -- don't bother trying to get up So you suffer, or take more oxy. So I just never take it. Keeps me real

[Elessar]

I found out the cocaine sensitivity when it was used to numb
my central cortex to begin the procedure to irrigate my sinuses.
I did not feel a thing, but heard the snap when they broke into the sinuses
and use saline to clear them.

Doc told me it was over and I could leave with cotton stuffed up inside until the
bleeding stopped. Sat up on the gurney and fell flat on my back. It took 4 hours to
sleep that off.

Far better than driving an ice covered I-79 from Morgantown WV back to Fairmont WV.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I'd say so. I can't take opiates. I turn into Superman. I'll tear up a gym and go all day lifting heavy.

Then you wake up next day and your body is sending a message -- don't bother trying to get up So you suffer, or take more oxy. So I just never take it. Keeps me real

Yeah... I'll have to say, when I take my oxycodone, I can go like a machine.

[jimnyc]

........

Yeah maybe I shouldn't say this but, I already mentioned it anyway, my neighbor uses it and he loves it. He's severely addicted to oxycodone, so he runs out and then has nightmarish withdrawals. But since he's started this stuff, he doesn't get withdrawal symptoms at all. So there's a place not far from here in Iowa that sells it over the counter, all the different types, different powders and pills, but yeah, that FELONY stuff scares the crap otta me. I think I'm just going to steer clear of it, even though I really would have liked to try some. Lots of people do, and I don't think Johnny law around here even gives a damn... who knows... I'm just not one to take too many chances with something that could literally get me thrown in prison.

I will not touch anything like that. I am sensitive to cocaine but
felt no effects of vicodin 250mg after 3 surgeries. Darvon flat
knocked me out! Took it for a muscle insert tear behind my ear in football.

Everyone's body chemistry is different.

I'd say so. I can't take opiates. I turn into Superman. I'll tear up a gym and go all day lifting heavy.

Then you wake up next day and your body is sending a message -- don't bother trying to get up So you suffer, or take more oxy. So I just never take it. Keeps me real

Yeah... I'll have to say, when I take my oxycodone, I can go like a machine.

For clarification - Kratom is NOT an opiate, but 'may' feel like an opiate when taken. And if any concern is about what opiates do to you, or have done, kratom doesn't affect you the same. No crazy feelings like that. Slightly, but not enough to say it's the same. BUT, while not the same, you CAN get addicted from it, and that's why I never took it more than 2 days in a row, and waiting at least 7 days if I can. I'm just a little crazy like that.

The main thing is the "unknown" in the US. But in other countries it's actually used as a medicine. Remember CBD oils about 10 years ago? Once benefits were proven, they finally legalized it. For now, some states make it illegal, and others have limitations, like NY having to be over 18. But some places like Wisconsin it's outright illegal. Because of abuse by some kids. I don't blame them at all! And I'm surprised that some even sell i if it's illegal. But a lot of doctors, scientists and folks who use kratom are fighting for it's legality. But who knows.

[NavyCop]

If you want to know more on Kratom and have Netflix check out Leaf of Faith. The film talks to both those for and against it being legal, scientists that study the plant and those that consume it.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If you want to know more on Kratom and have Netflix check out Leaf of Faith. The film talks to both those for and against it being legal, scientists that study the plant and those that consume it.

It's legal in 44 states. I don't know why it's illegal in WI with all it's liberals that love pot and whatnot here. I hope they legalize it here.

I think the ONLY reason it's illegal is because of some big pharma lobbying here.