New Mod - Logroller

[Voted4Reagan]

Didn't you tell us that, like over a month ago?

[red state]

And, as predicted, the first of the e-marmalukes appears.

No, I didn't know or realize that Billy Bob was doing that. He could have been saying the same things about me for all I know, or care, but I wouldn't have noticed because I put him on ignore.

Very simple actually. That's the sort of self-reliance that conservatism teaches, as opposed to running and crying to the house Nazis.

But, I'm done here. Have at me all youse e-marmalukes.

Taft, I could agree more, which is why I post within the Con/Rep board (when such an area is available). I've found that when you get the better of a liberal (through truth, logic and mental judo they QUICKLY tuck tail and RUN to daddy moderator or mommy moderator. (especially Cautionary Tail). Of all the dispicable things for a grown man to do, tattle tailing is one of the top MOST unmanly things that one can do and it always makes me cringe.

I"m not really sure why you responded to be with an "I agree....BUT" since I thought I had addressed the very points that you've spelled out. You say it is coming soon here at DP but I'd have to say (personally) that I've experienced it here as well. I'm sure most of them have placed me on ignore as you have with Billy and others....and that's your right but I've never placed anyone on an all out ignore. Sometimes I read their posts (especially the one-liners with very little substance....as usual) and sometimes I simply scroll past them to more intelligent, mature posters and as you well know, this site is full of the one-liners or immature posters who rather ask a ridiculous question than answer a legitimate one.

Still, this is a pretty good site (mostly because of all the bells and whistles within the programming that other sites leave out) but there are so many talk forums that I fully enjoy and when this site "turns" I still have friends and great posters elsewhere to vent or release some political steam.....or, as some would say, hot air. HA! I truly don't care if they see my posts as "Straw Man Posts" or not and the worse thing that one with no power such as myself can do on any particular site is to have those who are in power realize that you don't need them. Glad you were joking about leaving but I do understand the necessity in stepping away for however long it takes to get over bad news, biased rulings or redundant posters.

Well, Taft, I've got to get busy....up late last night after the huge celebration and FAR too much home-made ice cream and I've much to do in getting caught up. The fireworks were exceptional but the young man in the wheelchair was the true blessing last night after he presented his testimony via video to our youth. God Bless AMERICA!!!

[jimnyc]

I find this thread has turned comical. Everyone went nuts over Log being made a moderator, and some still whine, and yet after all of this time he has yet to moderate a single person. Further whining about "liberal" staff members, of which we have none. Some want to erroneously call Logroller a liberal moderator. Even if he was, which is laughable, he STILL hasn't moderated anyone, so either complaint falls flat. Then there is just general complaints about moderation, which is rarely the case. We've had maybe 2 outright bans in the past 6 months? And both were quite deserving. Then instead of heavy handed moderation outside of that, we have moved threads to the cage area, or removed a handful of participants that were consistently fighting in threads. And of course, those complaining are still here, and aren't even moderated.

Yep, 'ol horrible DP, filled with the liberal staff and nazi moderators, who go out of their way not to ban anyone. The horror of it all!

[Voted4Reagan]

I find this thread has turned comical. Everyone went nuts over Log being made a moderator, and some still whine, and yet after all of this time he has yet to moderate a single person. Further whining about "liberal" staff members, of which we have none. Some want to erroneously call Logroller a liberal moderator. Even if he was, which is laughable, he STILL hasn't moderated anyone, so either complaint falls flat. Then there is just general complaints about moderation, which is rarely the case. We've had maybe 2 outright bans in the past 6 months? And both were quite deserving. Then instead of heavy handed moderation outside of that, we have moved threads to the cage area, or removed a handful of participants that were consistently fighting in threads. And of course, those complaining are still here, and aren't even moderated.

Yep, 'ol horrible DP, filled with the liberal staff and nazi moderators, who go out of their way not to ban anyone. The horror of it all!

Youre all a bunch of authoritarian overlords that dont exercise any of your authority....

[fj1200]

I find this thread has turned comical.

I was thinking the same thing. All of the self-righteous indignation over what they just know will happen only adds to the comedy.

[Marcus Aurelius]

I find this thread has turned comical. Everyone went nuts over Log being made a moderator, and some still whine, and yet after all of this time he has yet to moderate a single person. Further whining about "liberal" staff members, of which we have none. Some want to erroneously call Logroller a liberal moderator. Even if he was, which is laughable, he STILL hasn't moderated anyone, so either complaint falls flat. Then there is just general complaints about moderation, which is rarely the case. We've had maybe 2 outright bans in the past 6 months? And both were quite deserving. Then instead of heavy handed moderation outside of that, we have moved threads to the cage area, or removed a handful of participants that were consistently fighting in threads. And of course, those complaining are still here, and aren't even moderated.

Yep, 'ol horrible DP, filled with the liberal staff and nazi moderators, who go out of their way not to ban anyone. The horror of it all!

I find that generalization disturbing, and an indicator of future aggressive acts towards innocent posters. You should remove your moderation privileges for a period of 1 week. Should said offense be repeated, 2 weeks, and so on. If it continues, then you should ban yourself.

[jimnyc]

I find that generalization disturbing, and an indicator of future aggressive acts towards innocent posters. You should remove your moderation privileges for a period of 1 week. Should said offense be repeated, 2 weeks, and so on. If it continues, then you should ban yourself.

You know what, you're correct, I did generalize and state everyone! The software won't allow me to ban myself, unfortunately. But as punishment, I just gave my Chihuahua a cookie, and purposely tried to immediately take it back from him. He then bit me. Consider it a spanking of sorts, and I did it just for you.

But maybe I can just leave for 24, and consider it a ban? Or should we choose a thread of your liking, and I will never post in it again, and we can call it a thread ban? What works for you?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Red States, nice post. However, it's been my experience that this all goes well beyond mere ideology. A forum moderating staff's group-think unites liberals and conservatives, in an almost paranoid us-vs-them group-think mentality.

I made a small joke and RSR instantly jumped into my shit telling me to shut up and stop whining. It was at that point that I recognized this increasingly expanding moderator pool was developing that very group think I've seen over and over. The staff becomes very defensive about their work, and when anyone dares to complain about it they bipartisanly descend upon them en-masse and deliver Soprano-level e-beatings to ensure complainers don't open their mouths again.

Not long afterwards, Billy Bob made a comment about Trigg's moderating. Now, I had no use for Billy Bob from the moment he arrived. I quickly recognized him as a crank and tossed him into my ignore bin. IMO, that's pretty much the extent of moderating a forum needs - an ignore feature. But I digress...

Jimmy immediately rushed to Trigg's defense, and somehow, for some reason I didn't quite catch, Billy Bob got banned. IMO, the moderators circling their wagons were responsible. Billy Bob was annoyance from the moment he arrived, but he hit the moderator trip-wire and "BOOM!", he got banned.

Then there are the moderator wannabes.... the e-marmaluke Sopranos. They made a thread mocking Billy Bob's expulsion. That's something that's always irked me. Trashing and mocking somebody who is incapable of defending themselves. Billy Bob didn't have much in the way of defenders, probably rightfully so... but next time it may very well be a more worthwhile poster. This precedent is already underway and the group think is rapidly developing.

The e-marmalukes defended the staff, applauded them, kissed their collective asses... all in hopes of becoming one of the in-crowd. One of kewl kids who gets to eat lunch at the kewl kids' table. This faction becomes the moderators' support base. When I made a comment in one of the "Hooray for the new Moderator" threads, I pointed out that a particular member was an e-marmaluke ... and that comment was quickly removed from the thread. Heaven forbid the ass kissers of the group-think masters of DP get a dig thrown at them.

Then there are those, like me, who sit around watching and saying, "Hey, wait a minute, what the hell's going on here? Was that really fair?" Only to get instantly slammed by moderators and e-marmalukes.

I've seen all of this before, and it's quickly evolving here. I've tried to fight it elsewhere, only to discover it's not worth the effort. Nor is it worth dedicating my time to a forum that just placed itself on a downward trajectory towards extinction.

Tyr, you say it's been a month and nothing bad's happened. I disagree. This is rapidly unfolding and developing.

I'm sure you've noticed that P.com is now essentially a liberal echo chamber with hardly any dissenting opinion. But the real underlying problem there was not liberalism vs. conservatism. It was the collective group-think of the moderating staff that "we're always right" and "complaints are always meritless."

When you start seeing comments from the moderating staff and their supporters that say things like "This site is free," "you have nothing to complain about," "you're free to leave," etc., they are an omen that more egregious abuses are coming, and that you either have to live with the abuses or leave.

I already see it coming in the month that just went by. This moderating staff is too big for the amount of participants and they'll all be jockeying for status within their group. And the e-marmalukes will be supporting every abuse. Normal posters will be victimized and departing. This is a normal development process for internet forums, which is why they all grow, peak, and decline.

It's like how if a government program is working OK, liberals simply can't leave it alone. They have to tweak and perfect it, to the point it becomes a total wreck. DP was going along fine, but now it's on the path to its own demise.

Sad.

And now the moderating staff can be expected to appear and rip this post to shreds, the e-mamalukes will applaud their every comment, but none of that will alter the path DP is now tracking...

Taft, there is some truth to what you say about how moderating usually goes. Lord knows we've seen it go like that elsewhere but my friend I truly believe that's not the case here. Now you know damn well I'm not butt-kissing when saying that. I voluntarily left the other forum because they wrongly banned my friend and that's how I came to be here. I always saw you as a stand your ground kind of guy that wouldn't just give up or give in. And now it looks like you are doing both. Billybob was an azzhat from the word go so do not use what happened to that character as it is a great error IMHO. And you know that all admin's and mods work together, play together -bond and defend each other. Its the natural order of things Hoss. Happens at all boards my friend. I tell ya that this board is not liberal and we have far more freedom to post here than elsewhere. Now I will agree with you if log and I in the future get into a heated exchange and a gang suddenly descends upon me and beat me senseless. I SIMPLY DO NOT SEE THAT HAPPENING. Call it faith, call it experience or call it intuition but I've been at over a dozen sites and this by far is the best one. Did I ever do you wrong or not be honest with you? Think about it and know IF you do not play here anymore I'll damn sure miss both your intelligent comments and your tendency to blast anybody that blasts you. I always really admired that about you. Guess I've said enough now . PM me if you'd like to discuss this more my friend. -Tyr

[Marcus Aurelius]

You know what, you're correct, I did generalize and state everyone! The software won't allow me to ban myself, unfortunately. But as punishment, I just gave my Chihuahua a cookie, and purposely tried to immediately take it back from him. He then bit me. Consider it a spanking of sorts, and I did it just for you.

But maybe I can just leave for 24, and consider it a ban? Or should we choose a thread of your liking, and I will never post in it again, and we can call it a thread ban? What works for you?

I think the Chihuahua bite is sufficient chastisement. You may consider your slate clean... but don't let it happen again, or I may have to get Taft to rip you a new one again.

[Little-Acorn]

I find this thread has turned comical.

This one too, eh?

Everyone went nuts over Log being made a moderator,

Everybody?

[jimnyc]

This one too, eh?



Everybody?

Hey, wasn't my Chihuahua bite enough? Should I let him bite my leg now too?

[Voted4Reagan]

Hey, wasn't my Chihuahua bite enough? Should I let him bite my leg now too?

Pug Farts are worse then Chihuahua bites...

[Little-Acorn]

Hey, wasn't my Chihuahua bite enough? Should I let him bite my leg now too?

No. As I said earlier, everything is Logroller's fault now.

[Marcus Aurelius]

No. As I said earlier, everything is Logroller's fault now.

I thought everything was still Bush's fault!

[fj1200]

Well, the verdict is in; DP is now a bastion of liberal groupthink with any hint of conservative opinion now pounced upon and ridiculed with all the fervor that should meet similar ignorant twaddle. I would like to publicly apologize to all of those who correctly predicted the demise of this fine virtual institution; any hint of opposition that I proffered is hereby withdrawn.