Supreme Court Weighs Second Amendment Showdown After Mass Shootings

[Noir]

Case in point:
Armed citizen foils mass shooting: How many lives could have been lost in three minutes?

3 Minutes?
Wasn’t one of the more recent mass shooters stopped within a minute having already killed and injured dozens?

[CSM]

Isn't it ironic that murder by any means is already a crime and banned by law... so is assault and aggravated assault ... so is rape .... so is kidnapping

Clearly, since laws addressing murder, assault and other heinous acts fail to actually PREVENT them, what makes any sane person believe that laws banning certain weapons will actually prevent ANYTHING other than preventing law abiding folks from protecting themselves? I just don't get the logic or lack thereof.

[CSM]

3 Minutes?
Wasn’t one of the more recent mass shooters stopped within a minute having already killed and injured dozens?

yep, and the perpetrator was killed in 30 seconds as well. You will notice that mass shooters plan their attacks on an presumably unarmed populace congregated at undefended areas. Works really well for them and not so well for their targets.

[Noir]

yep, and the perpetrator was killed in 30 seconds as well. You will notice that mass shooters plan their attacks on an presumably unarmed populace congregated at undefended areas. Works really well for them and not so well for their targets.

So this pretty close to best case scenario for the ‘people at the scene able to defend themselves almost instantly’ and how many died?

[CSM]

So this pretty close to best case scenario for the ‘people at the scene able to defend themselves almost instantly’ and how many died?

how many more would have died is the question you wont ask!

I suppose being a European, that you feel much better if everyone is disarmed... nobody gets murdered in Europe! Having said that, you will tell us it's a matter of scale. Let's just agree that Americans are gun toting, bible thumping, mass murdering troglodytes. I am good with that. My advice to you, since we Americans are inherently evil people, is DON'T come America, DON'T interact with Americans, and whatever you do, DON'T ask Americans to defend your sorry asses next time one of your "peaceful but misunderstood" neighbors decides to invade your country!

[Noir]

how many more would have died is the question you wont ask!

I suppose being a European, that you feel much better if everyone is disarmed... nobody gets murdered in Europe! Having said that, you will tell us it's a matter of scale.

As I was saying - this example was pretty close to ‘best case’ under the ‘everyone is safer when everyone has guns’ theory. (Therefore it is a good outcome)

As for Gun massacres -
Americans population approx 325million.
European population approx 740 million.

Twice the population in Europe and nowhere near as many gun massacres, why is that? Whenever we are all disarmed and such weak, vulnerable, easy targets for these gun wielding mass murderers?

[STTAB]

As I was saying - this example was pretty close to ‘best case’ under the ‘everyone is safer when everyone has guns’ theory. (Therefore it is a good outcome)

As for Gun massacres -
Americans population approx 325million.
European population approx 740 million.

Twice the population in Europe and nowhere near as many gun massacres, why is that? Whenever we are all disarmed and such weak, vulnerable, easy targets for these gun wielding mass murderers?

Less black people in Europe. That is the plain and simple truth.

These mass shootings are rare in this country Noir, What's not rare is inner city blacks shooting the shit out of each other..

[CSM]

Less black people in Europe. That is the plain and simple truth.

These mass shootings are rare in this country Noir, What's not rare is inner city blacks shooting the shit out of each other..

Truthfully, you Europeans would rather wait for the "World War" type event where millions are massacred than have "mass shootings" where a mere few (10s) are murdered. You folks are thoughtful like that....

[High_Plains_Drifter]

As I was saying - this example was pretty close to ‘best case’ under the ‘everyone is safer when everyone has guns’ theory. (Therefore it is a good outcome)

As for Gun massacres -
Americans population approx 325million.
European population approx 740 million.

Twice the population in Europe and nowhere near as many gun massacres, why is that? Whenever we are all disarmed and such weak, vulnerable, easy targets for these gun wielding mass murderers?

Yeah, we Americans know all too well how it worked out for all you slobs being disarmed... one hellova lot WORSE than a few getting shot up here in my opinion... you disarmed dumbasses got slaughtered by the MILLIONS. Care to make another stupid comparison?

[Drummond]

As I was saying - this example was pretty close to ‘best case’ under the ‘everyone is safer when everyone has guns’ theory. (Therefore it is a good outcome)

As for Gun massacres -
Americans population approx 325million.
European population approx 740 million.

Twice the population in Europe and nowhere near as many gun massacres, why is that? Whenever we are all disarmed and such weak, vulnerable, easy targets for these gun wielding mass murderers?

How many 'knife massacres' (including the occasional machete !) do we have in the UK ? Our draconian anti-gun laws do a very great deal to restrict ownership, sure, but then murdering maniacs just find another way of killing. Sadiq Khan (that vitriolic critic of Trump and Leftie mayor), has let knife crime get out of control in London. He shows no sign of remedying that. So, the murders continue.

Think back to the 2011 England riots. Tell me ... if storekeepers had been allowed to own guns, and defend their properties from looting ... or if gun controls were relaxed far more generally ... do you SERIOUSLY reckon that those riots, and all that looting, would've happened, much less persisted for several days ? Knowing that if you go on a looting spree, there's a high probability that it'd end with being at the wrong end of a gun barrel ... not too likely to fail to deter, is it .. ?

[Noir]

How many 'knife massacres' (including the occasional machete !) do we have in the UK ? Our draconian anti-gun laws do a very great deal to restrict ownership, sure, but then murdering maniacs just find another way of killing. Sadiq Khan (that vitriolic critic of Trump and Leftie mayor), has let knife crime get out of control in London. He shows no sign of remedying that. So, the murders continue.

Think back to the 2011 England riots. Tell me ... if storekeepers had been allowed to own guns, and defend their properties from looting ... or if gun controls were relaxed far more generally ... do you SERIOUSLY reckon that those riots, and all that looting, would've happened, much less persisted for several days ? Knowing that if you go on a looting spree, there's a high probability that it'd end with being at the wrong end of a gun barrel ... not too likely to fail to deter, is it .. ?

Would you rather be in a shopping mall when suddenly an intended mass murderer pulls out a knife or a gun?

Would you of preferred all the rioters had access to guns aswell?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

So this pretty close to best case scenario for the ‘people at the scene able to defend themselves almost instantly’ and how many died?

Wrong question Noir. Question should be -how many more would have died or been injured had NOT the citizen been there armed that confronted the shooter?
And how many lives could be saved in the future if more law abiding citizens are armed and able to defend themselves and defend others?
Seems to me you are conveniently shortsighted when asking questions--questions that you think serve your liberal/leftist agenda well.
Questions and corresponding answers that you do not want asked and given. eh?-Tyr

[STTAB]

So this pretty close to best case scenario for the ‘people at the scene able to defend themselves almost instantly’ and how many died?

Noir, people who are willing to go to Wal Mart and shoot people are not going to obey gun laws, no matter which laws you pass.

The only person in that scenario who would not have had a gun is the guy who stopped the criminal. This isn't rocket science.

[FakeNewsSux]

3 Minutes?
Wasn’t one of the more recent mass shooters stopped within a minute having already killed and injured dozens?

Did you even read the article? Your statement was one of the points made in the article. It took the Springfield PD three minutes to show up but the armed citizen already had the perp on the ground at gunpoint when they arrived. No one killed or injured. Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.