Today in History: The Confederate Constitution is approved

[revelarts]

The lack of the usual left-sided opposition in reply to this thread, to me is a clear sign of just how badly Trump has beaten down the usual ""suspects"" , with his supposedly infantile and ignorant rantings and inexplicable success in victory and now his brilliant execution of his campaign promises!
They are so beaten as to have dug so deep under the nearest rock, as not to see daylight, nor even be able answer to this thread , and its
noting the Civil War, its dastardly Southern Confederacy and its Constitution!

Who would have thunk it, a moron like, TRUMP DEMOLISHING THESE SUPPOSED HIGHLY ENLIGHTENED LIB GENIUSES.
Fear grips them like an iron glove , while they hide under rocks, hand delivering only self-love..

Glory be.... -Tyr

Tyr, your 1st post seemed to pretty historically accurate.
As it points out the main difference in the confederate constitution for the U.S. constitution was it's emphasis on protecting and perpetuating "negro" slavery.

I'm not sure why you wanted to to post it.
and I'll make no assumptions.

I personally am very happy that the Confederacy got it's arse kicked and is DEAD. It was a short lived bass-ackward nation whose leaders main concern was to extend it's wealth via african slavery into the 20th century and beyond.
I'm glad it's dead, like Nazi Germany and U.S.S.R., good riddance to bad rubbish.

of course we all want to preserve the great southern qualities of good food, hospitality, cordiality, love of God, honesty, respect for elders and the like.
But i don't see those things in the Confederate Constitution. do you? I don't see them specifically birthed in the few years the confederate states were actually viable. The south had those before and after the confederacy's thankfully SHORT life. the South had those good qualities While they were and are PART OF the U.S.A. proper.

So the confederate constitution doesn't, in my thinking at least, represent anything but an ugly and thankfully dead document. the historical notation of it in this tread is like noting the approval of the building of concentration camps of Germany. It is good to remember past political horrors from time to time.

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[gabosaurus]

The Civil War is part of American history. I see no reason to pretend that it didn't exist. I also see no reason to glorify the key figures of the Confederacy. For the same reason why there are no statues of Nazi leaders in Germany.
History celebrates the winners, not the losers.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The Civil War is part of American history. I see no reason to pretend that it didn't exist. I also see no reason to glorify the key figures of the Confederacy. For the same reason why there are no statues of Nazi leaders in Germany.
History celebrates the winners, not the losers.

Nazi comparison is invalid and wrong.
As to speaking about such leaders be they confederate politicians or military officers, that is a historic discussion, not to be confused with
debating the right or wrong of pro or anti-slavery issues.-Tyr

[Gunny]

Nazi comparison is invalid and wrong.
As to speaking about such leaders be they confederate politicians or military officers, that is a historic discussion, not to be confused with
debating the right or wrong of pro or anti-slavery issues.-Tyr

I agree with you in principle; however, the left's myth has re-written history. You cannot divorce one from the other. One of our earlier examples of the MSM. Horace Greely and Beecher-Stowe used slavery as their red herring. The war was fought over money. Northern industry made their money from domestic textile goods and the South made theirs from trade with the Europe. The Northerners wanted a high tariff and the South did not. Abolitionists were actually a small minority. They just tossed their hats in the ring on the side that eventually won. This was about control of the government, the people and money.

Regardless what some wish to believe, the social and economic divide still exists. They just changed the names. Nowadays we're uneducated rednecks. And these crybabies want to wipe our heritage away, and blacks think they are entitled when they have more opportunity than we do. We have to earn our sh*t.

[Gunny]

The US Constitution is actually a rip off of the magna carta from England. The CSA constitution did the same. Changed a few words around. The American Revolution was fought because some rich boys didn't want to pay their taxes so they committed treason.

There's a theme here.

[cnm]

I agree with you in principle; however, the left's myth has re-written history. You cannot divorce one from the other. One of our earlier examples of the MSM. Horace Greely and Beecher-Stowe used slavery as their red herring. The war was fought over money.

Funny how the Vice President of the Confederacy disagrees with you. Still, revisionists will revise.

Our new government is founded upon exactly [this] idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Tyr, your 1st post seemed to pretty historically accurate.
As it points out the main difference in the confederate constitution for the U.S. constitution was it's emphasis on protecting and perpetuating "negro" slavery.

I'm not sure why you wanted to to post it.
and I'll make no assumptions.

I personally am very happy that the Confederacy got it's arse kicked and is DEAD. It was a short lived bass-ackward nation whose leaders main concern was to extend it's wealth via african slavery into the 20th century and beyond.
I'm glad it's dead, like Nazi Germany and U.S.S.R., good riddance to bad rubbish.

of course we all want to preserve the great southern qualities of good food, hospitality, cordiality, love of God, honesty, respect for elders and the like.
But i don't see those things in the Confederate Constitution. do you? I don't see them specifically birthed in the few years the confederate states were actually viable. The south had those before and after the confederacy's thankfully SHORT life. the South had those good qualities While they were and are PART OF the U.S.A. proper.

So the confederate constitution doesn't, in my thinking at least, represent anything but an ugly and thankfully dead document. the historical notation of it in this tread is like noting the approval of the building of concentration camps of Germany. It is good to remember past political horrors from time to time.

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I made no comment on the article.
I presented it because it is a historic fact and interesting to me and perhaps to others here as well.
I do not and never have agreed with slavery, yet the South was far more than just slavery.
And it was savaged after the war ended, savaged by Yankee carpet-beggars.. A fact..
HOWEVER INTERESTING IS THE FACT THE CONFEDERACY'S CONSTITUTION GAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS/POWERS TO THE STATES.
Whereas, our modern federal government keeps stripping power away from the states.-Tyr

[cnm]

I do not and never have agreed with slavery, yet the South was far more than just slavery.

But it's government was based on the idea of the inferiority of the black man as expressed by its Vice President. That means slavery is the distinguishing feature of the South, other factors are of less importance.