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    Society does not have the job, but it takes it, saving parents from aforementioned 'stupid' parents. If a kid has stupid parents, it's their lot in life - the responsibility of the kid to over-come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Society does not have the job, but it takes it, saving parents from aforementioned 'stupid' parents. If a kid has stupid parents, it's their lot in life - the responsibility of the kid to over-come.
    It's a catch 22 . Schools SHOULDN'T be parenting, but parents have dumped it on them. When a student who has shitty parenting acts up, he is disrupting not just his education but that of those around him. In an ideal world we'd just send his ass home and tell his parents to keep him there until he can behave. But that of course isn't how it works. So schools take the "easier" route and they become parents as well as educators.

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    If a kid acts-up due to shitty parenting, the right answer is to ban the kid from school. Not to try to become surrogate parents.

    But this thread is about the foods we eat -which generally suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    If a kid acts-up due to shitty parenting, the right answer is to ban the kid from school. Not to try to become surrogate parents.

    But this thread is about the foods we eat -which generally suck.
    I agree on both counts.

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    It's a wonderful Catch 22. We demand schools serve healthy meals. Trouble is, schools feeds hundreds (and thousands) with limited resources. And unlimited input from those who don't often bother at home.

    What I find interesting is that the same people who protest unhealthy food often take their kids out to McDonalds or Taco Bell. Which are about as far from "healthy" as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It's a wonderful Catch 22. We demand schools serve healthy meals. Trouble is, schools feeds hundreds (and thousands) with limited resources. And unlimited input from those who don't often bother at home.

    What I find interesting is that the same people who protest unhealthy food often take their kids out to McDonalds or Taco Bell. Which are about as far from "healthy" as you can get.

    WHO demands it? I certainly don't. I demand schools get out of the food industry. YOU demand stuff from schools; you and your fools who are so-committed to the downfall of our society with your terrible, TERRIBLE ideas on how to govern, run, and educate.

    What I find interesting is the same people who claim to be in the education field are woefully inept and ignorant of ideas concerning policies, lessons, and plans that are good, true, and right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    WHO demands it? I certainly don't. I demand schools get out of the food industry. YOU demand stuff from schools; you and your fools who are so-committed to the downfall of our society with your terrible, TERRIBLE ideas on how to govern, run, and educate.

    What I find interesting is the same people who claim to be in the education field are woefully inept and ignorant of ideas concerning policies, lessons, and plans that are good, true, and right.
    I think - make that I KNOW - that I can make a case that providing meals for school students increases their chances of academic success.

    Now of course you can come back with parents should be providing meals and you are absolutely correct, Please start telling as many people as you can that they need to start raising their own damned kids and let our schools concentrate on education. Good luck convincing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    WHO demands it? I certainly don't. I demand schools get out of the food industry. YOU demand stuff...
    To be fair to gabby, it's what she knows. "They" demand it because it's the quick feel good decision rather than the better long-term solution.
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