Ten Years After

[fj1200]

You say that same thing pretty much every time - always instantly saying that "if it's because of their race" - when I never said any such thing, and it always revolves around SOLELY posting stats. And then not long after being labeled a racist. Hell, look at you for starters - without me even saying so, you kind of lean in with the "well, if you say it's because of race..." - already kind of hinting. I'm NOT saying you call me a racist, but that's clearly how it starts, but starting in with comments and such that one never stated.

And I DID state that it comes from BOTH sides. It's just that one is more taboo. You will often hear people saying stuff like "you would never say that in a black neighborhood". Today, we see blacks all over and have no fear whatsoever of jumping on whites. Whether that be in public, in music, social media... But if you're white and dare utter the N word in public just once, see the difference in how it's handled. If you're white, and release a song that has lyrics talking smack about black people, see how well that goes over!

Racism has a definition. If you want to include "hate" in the definition then the number of racists just went up an order or two of magnitude. So many times I hear that "blacks are racist, they hate whites" by someone who might insist that they are not racist when they've just defined themselves as one by the statement they've made.

The reason that I use "if" is because racism is a belief. I can't look at someone walking down the street and call them a racist (unless they're wearing a t-shirt) but I can suspect someone is by what they say. It's perfectly acceptable to quote DOJ stats and discuss solutions but you need to be careful when defining the problem. If all you see is someone's color then that will determine what you see as a solution which would likely be wrong; if you can look deeper into the statistics, as I've posted before, then you'll see a better solution.

[jimnyc]

Racism has a definition. If you want to include "hate" in the definition then the number of racists just went up an order or two of magnitude. So many times I hear that "blacks are racist, they hate whites" by someone who might insist that they are not racist when they've just defined themselves as one by the statement they've made.

The reason that I use "if" is because racism is a belief. I can't look at someone walking down the street and call them a racist (unless they're wearing a t-shirt) but I can suspect someone is by what they say. It's perfectly acceptable to quote DOJ stats and discuss solutions but you need to be careful when defining the problem. If all you see is someone's color then that will determine what you see as a solution which would likely be wrong; if you can look deeper into the statistics, as I've posted before, then you'll see a better solution.

I'm not going to argue for the sake of it, nor about the word if. I simply stated that there are in fact blacks out there that hate white folks with a venom. I further stated that you have whites that are the same. I added in that I believe it's kinda taboo to discuss some issues about the blacks though.

I defined nothing. Again, I'm talking about simply posting a list of stats, and already being declared a racist for doing so. Don't make it more confusing and be and advocate for things I haven't brought up or stated.

Oh, and "if all you see is someone's color" - again trying to make it sound as if someone said that, or that I did, and making it sound racist. But I never said anything like that. But I am glad that you wrote that, as it's a great example of what happens. But I know, you said IF all you say

[Black Diamond]

What is Jim's definition of if?

[jimnyc]

What is Jim's definition of if?

I don't care, I'd rather speak about issues and facts than play word games and semantics.

[Black Diamond]

I don't care, I'd rather speak about issues and facts than play word games and semantics.

No Bubba today? Sounds good.

[fj1200]

I don't care, I'd rather speak about issues and facts than play word games and semantics.

That's all I'm talking about.