Go to Google... WTF is going on?

[Noir]

Easy! Here in the States, if it's copyrighted, there is no "gifting", as it's not yours to give away.

So you can't give people CDs that you own?

[fj1200]

So you can't give people CDs that you own?

Sure you can, you can even sell them to a dealer. You could theoretically run into trouble if you copied them first and then passed them on/sold them.

[fj1200]

Yeah, and I think applying these laws to individuals who aren't "distributing" the material for profit, sucks and is stupid.

Profit is your determining factor? I would put it at quantity. If you make it available online where it's easily accessible, and traceable, you're asking for a world of hurt.

[jimnyc]

Profit is your determining factor? I would put it at quantity. If you make it available online where it's easily accessible, and traceable, you're asking for a world of hurt.

Nope, I simply meant that the scenario of a friend sharing a movie he taped, was far different than someone "distributing" it (as to the masses online) or profiting from it (as in those who tape them and sell them).

[jimnyc]

So you can't give people CDs that you own?

I thought we were still talking about what was taped off of your TV...

Yes, you can give away YOUR cd, but you cannot make a copy of what you bought and then share it. Not even one song.

[fj1200]

Nope, I simply meant that the scenario of a friend sharing a movie he taped, was far different than someone "distributing" it (as to the masses online) or profiting from it (as in those who tape them and sell them).

OK, I'm with ya now.

[Noir]

I thought we were still talking about what was taped off of your TV...

Yes, you can give away YOUR cd, but you cannot make a copy of what you bought and then share it. Not even one song.

Mkay, so i buy a CD, burn it to my mac, gift my CD to a friend, who burns it and gifts it to a friend etc etc.

you can replace CD with DVD/Book etc.

[jimnyc]

Mkay, so i buy a CD, burn it to my mac, gift my CD to a friend, who burns it and gifts it to a friend etc etc.

you can replace CD with DVD/Book etc.

Nope, you can't have your cake and eat it too. The copyright is exclusive to the cd/dvd, and may very allow for a backup. But you can't make copies, whether for backup or not, and pass it on and let multiple people possess with one purchase. What you did is just give the definition of piracy - getting music/movie yourself and sharing copies with others.

[Sir Evil]

I hope that's true but that seems different than your argument of having to repeatedly buy the same copyright. I think that there is clearly a problem that the industry is concerned about and they should have the recourse that they have; not SOPA/PIPA though.

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You don't buy copyrights, what I was suggesting is that the industry had no problem fucking me for years as I bought collections in several different formats as one after the other fazed out but where are the artist crying foul over that when we had to buy their music several times over? thing is it's good when they squeezing the money out of you but when you think your are getting a bit of a kickback the fuckers run to their lawyers.

Look at it like this, you go to a good bar and lay out the bucks for several rounds of drinks, a good barmaid will give a round on the house, a little sign of appreciation for the money already made from you. Whats wrong with the industry giving a little back to the people that made that industry so rich? bottom line is that they aren't loosing as much as they claim but they just don't wanna lose anything at all.

[Sir Evil]

Add Filesonic to the ranks as they just closed their sharing ability to only being able to download the content you have uploaded yourself.

Filesonic Teams Up with Vobile to Protect Copyrighted Digital Content

Vobile's vCloud9 is the first such digital protection technology to enable sites to examine content, match it to Vobile's extensive database of digital content 'fingerprints' and pull the questionable content before publication. This represents a huge technological step in preventing pirated content from going viral on the web.
http://markets.financialcontent.com/...?GUID=20222568

[fj1200]

^ Maybe SOPA/PIPA did its job.

[ConHog]

ill tell you what pisses me off. All the fucking crooks have made it hard on the guy who just wants to use shit he paid for. Take my DVR for example. I have paid for the shows/movies I have recorded I should be able to watch them wherever and whenever I want. But no, can't , you can't transfer the files to another hard drive, they won't play. And if your DVR goes out? Too bad, even putting the old HD in a new unit won't allow them to be viewed.

Now of course you COULD sit there and record them on another device as you watch them, but what an inefficient process that is.

[fj1200]

Take my DVR for example. I have paid for the shows/movies I have recorded...

How did you pay for what's on your DVR? Isn't that just broadcast shows/movies?

<--- Doesn't have a DVR.

[jimnyc]

ill tell you what pisses me off. All the fucking crooks have made it hard on the guy who just wants to use shit he paid for. Take my DVR for example. I have paid for the shows/movies I have recorded I should be able to watch them wherever and whenever I want. But no, can't , you can't transfer the files to another hard drive, they won't play. And if your DVR goes out? Too bad, even putting the old HD in a new unit won't allow them to be viewed.

Now of course you COULD sit there and record them on another device as you watch them, but what an inefficient process that is.

How did you pay for what's on your DVR? Isn't that just broadcast shows/movies?

<--- Doesn't have a DVR.

From the onset of DVR's they made it so that what you record isn't transferrable. Most shows/movies are copyrighted anyway, and aren't meant to be moved between multiple devices. Recording a show, watching it later, then deleting it is ok. But they designed these devices so that you can't record something, place it on your computer and then share with the world.

But yeah, if you have a "device failure" on your DVR, and had 60 hours of shows/movies recorded that you haven't watched yet, you're shit out of luck!

[ConHog]

How did you pay for what's on your DVR? Isn't that just broadcast shows/movies?

<--- Doesn't have a DVR.

Oh, sorry, No I'm on DirecTv. They are all the same though, they have their files encrypted to each particular DVR.