Which of these stories isnt real?

[LuvRPgrl]

Do you ever consider that cops are just human beings and so some of them do the same stupid shit as some in the general population do?

All I ask for is to be treated with respect LIKE A FELLOW HUMAN BEING, particularly when I havent done ANYTHING wrong.
They blatantly called my wife a whore. PROBLEM with those idiots is I went to high school with the watch commander, you do know what this is don't you?

[ConHog]

All I ask for is to be treated with respect LIKE A FELLOW HUMAN BEING, particularly when I havent done ANYTHING wrong.
They blatantly called my wife a whore. PROBLEM with those idiots is I went to high school with the watch commander, you do know what this is don't you?

a cop called your wife a whore? That's low class and pretty disgusting. I agree. I agree with you. Even the most guilty sumbitch deserves to be treated with a minimum of respect, and that includes cops.

[LuvRPgrl]

a cop called your wife a whore? That's low class and pretty disgusting. I agree. I agree with you. Even the most guilty sumbitch deserves to be treated with a minimum of respect, and that includes cops.

some of my post got deleted.
They called her a whore because she appears to be years youngeer than me. They made me sit on the curb, put my hands with fingers interlinked on my head, searched my wife, left cuz they had nothing to charge us with and never apogized.

I have basically always been an upstanding citizen, minus some illegal drug usage in past days.
I never got harrassed like I do regularly now.
HArrased cuz I was riding my bicycle.

THIS is a true story. I came to a stop sign and made a full stop cuz I knew a cop was in the area, and there he was. I looked straight at him hoping he would actually see my stop, and he did look right at me. He still pulled me over even though I was parked already.
He claimed I didnt stop fully UNTIL I LOOKED AT HIM..!!!

Cops treat you like trash, they will get it in return. I HAVE several citizens arrests under my belt, I used to be pro law enforcement, not anymore, I have seen wayyyyy too many of them lie, lie, lie and then lie somemore

[ConHog]

some of my post got deleted.
They called her a whore because she appears to be years youngeer than me. They made me sit on the curb, put my hands with fingers interlinked on my head, searched my wife, left cuz they had nothing to charge us with and never apogized.

I have basically always been an upstanding citizen, minus some illegal drug usage in past days.
I never got harrassed like I do regularly now.
HArrased cuz I was riding my bicycle.

THIS is a true story. I came to a stop sign and made a full stop cuz I knew a cop was in the area, and there he was. I looked straight at him hoping he would actually see my stop, and he did look right at me. He still pulled me over even though I was parked already.
He claimed I didnt stop fully UNTIL I LOOKED AT HIM..!!!

Cops treat you like trash, they will get it in return. I HAVE several citizens arrests under my belt, I used to be pro law enforcement, not anymore, I have seen wayyyyy too many of them lie, lie, lie and then lie somemore

First, I would probably be facing assault charges if someone called my wife a whore to face. Cop or not, so I'm not going to stick up for a cop if he did that.

SOME cops are assholes LUV, I don't dispute that. usually the small town cops are the worst, they thing they are badass b/c they have a tin badge , but that doesn't mean ALL cops or even a majority of them are assholes.

I could list literally hundreds of cops who are just good guys doing a job that most wouldn't do.

You told a true story about bad cops, now let me tell you one about good cops.

As you know my Guard duty was helping serve no knock warrants. On one warrant we had everyone in cuffs and the detectives were searching the house of this scumbag who was living with his grandma. Anyway, the search turned up a shit load of meth, some crack, guns, money, and in grandma's nightstand marijuana. Now the warrant was for grandson but covered the entire house. Grandma smoked pot for her cancer. Arkansas doesn't have medical marijuana laws. She had felony weight in that drawer. A quick meeting and DEA, national guard, state troopers, county sheriffs decided together that justice would not be served by arresting an 87 y/o woman who was suffering from cancer because she smoked pot. So grandson went to jail, and grandma not only didn't go to jail, she didn't even lose her pot.

Was that the right , as in legal, thing to do? Nope. But it seemed like the "right" thing to do.

[logroller]

THIS is a true story. I came to a stop sign and made a full stop cuz I knew a cop was in the area, and there he was. I looked straight at him hoping he would actually see my stop, and he did look right at me. He still pulled me over even though I was parked already.
He claimed I didnt stop fully UNTIL I LOOKED AT HIM..!!!

Cops treat you like trash, they will get it in return. I HAVE several citizens arrests under my belt, I used to be pro law enforcement, not anymore, I have seen wayyyyy too many of them lie, lie, lie and then lie somemore

Wait a minute...you didn't come to a full stop because its the law? And quite frankly, a good law at that. I've seen how running stop signs can lead to pretty serious accidents.

Anywho. I'd just say to him, "Yes sir-- I came to a complete stop-- am I free to go or would you like my license, registration and insurance?" Just keep it on subject, the goal of any interaction with a cop is to get him to go away ASAP, so that he can attend to more pressing matters.

[LuvRPgrl]

Wait a minute...you didn't come to a full stop because its the law? And quite frankly, a good law at that. I've seen how running stop signs can lead to pretty serious accidents.

Anywho. I'd just say to him, "Yes sir-- I came to a complete stop-- am I free to go or would you like my license, registration and insurance?" Just keep it on subject, the goal of any interaction with a cop is to get him to go away ASAP, so that he can attend to more pressing matters.

HE couldnt even write me up for anything either. SO he just wanted to check me for warrants. Could you imagine a judge reading 'failed to NOT LOOK AT POLICE OFFICER WHILE COMING TO A FULL STOP"

as for a full stop, even cops dont do it, it should be up to officers discretion, but the cops should be realilstic about it. Did I slow to 1/2 mph, or did I blow it at 10 mph

OH, AND HOW ABOUT THE KID WHO FELL 30 FEET, and was laying on the ground with a broken back and couldnt move, the cops tazered him 19 times, claiming he wouldnt comply with their orders....

[revelarts]

First, I would probably be facing assault charges if someone called my wife a whore to face. Cop or not, so I'm not going to stick up for a cop if he did that.

SOME cops are assholes LUV, I don't dispute that. usually the small town cops are the worst, they thing they are badass b/c they have a tin badge , but that doesn't mean ALL cops or even a majority of them are assholes.

I could list literally hundreds of cops who are just good guys doing a job that most wouldn't do.

You told a true story about bad cops, now let me tell you one about good cops.

As you know my Guard duty was helping serve no knock warrants. On one warrant we had everyone in cuffs and the detectives were searching the house of this scumbag who was living with his grandma. Anyway, the search turned up a shit load of meth, some crack, guns, money, and in grandma's nightstand marijuana. Now the warrant was for grandson but covered the entire house. Grandma smoked pot for her cancer. Arkansas doesn't have medical marijuana laws. She had felony weight in that drawer. A quick meeting and DEA, national guard, state troopers, county sheriffs decided together that justice would not be served by arresting an 87 y/o woman who was suffering from cancer because she smoked pot. So grandson went to jail, and grandma not only didn't go to jail, she didn't even lose her pot.

Was that the right , as in legal, thing to do? Nope. But it seemed like the "right" thing to do.

Good post Con, it was definitely the right thing to do.
But one thing stand out to me here.

"... As you know my Guard duty was helping serve no knock warrants....A quick meeting and DEA, national guard, state troopers, county sheriffs decided together..."

Why the hell is the national guard busting into people's houses over local or federal state drug laws. doesn't poses comitatus apply anywhere any more? What kind of authority does a gruardsman have in an arrest situation during a non-emergency? I thought the govoner of a state had to call the guard out.

what the heck is "helping out"?
I'd assume you'd be authorized to shoot (kill) if things got outta hand with busting into people homes unannounced mostly crooks i'm sure. But what if granma gets shot by accident by the national gaurd helping out?

But wait why is the Guard serving no-knock warrants again? I can't get past this.
The Freaking army is Deputized to enforce a warrant?!?

we're cooked and done.

I've got a feeling someones going to tell me something like "there's no problem, the armies full of good guys , no worries, Poses Comitatus doesn't apply here, cause... well... it just doesn't and the Guard will only hurt bad people.... and people the Generals or CiC tells us to,... who will be bad people of course... so your over reacting. never mind the principal... just see how we treated Grandma. It's not a military police state just because the military are helping the police bust into homes unannounced, or wiretap, jail or kill without warrants, TSA plane, train, bus auto -your papers please- etc etc revel... relax and go to sleeeep you can still protest and say what you want RIGHT?"


The frog is boiling, this police state thing is real, there no need to wait for some big event or outrageous offense it's here. We've got history of other countries to look at to see what's happening here, they had some excuse for not being sure we don't. Ignore the signs at your own peril.

[ConHog]

Good post Con, it was definitely the right thing to do.
But one thing stand out to me here.

"... As you know my Guard duty was helping serve no knock warrants....A quick meeting and DEA, national guard, state troopers, county sheriffs decided together..."

Why the hell is the national guard busting into people's houses over local or federal state drug laws. doesn't poses comitatus apply anywhere any more? What kind of authority does a gruardsman have in an arrest situation during a non-emergency? I thought the govoner of a state had to call the guard out.

what the heck is "helping out"?
I'd assume you'd be authorized to shoot (kill) if things got outta hand with busting into people homes unannounced mostly crooks i'm sure. But what if granma gets shot by accident by the national gaurd helping out?

But wait why is the Guard serving no-knock warrants again? I can't get past this.
The Freaking army is Deputized to enforce a warrant?!?

we're cooked and done.

I've got a feeling someones going to tell me something like "there's no problem, the armies full of good guys , no worries, Poses Comitatus doesn't apply here, cause... well... it just doesn't and the Guard will only hurt bad people.... and people the Generals or CiC tells us to,... who will be bad people of course... so your over reacting. never mind the principal... just see how we treated Grandma. It's not a military police state just because the military are helping the police bust into homes unannounced, or wiretap, jail or kill without warrants, TSA plane, train, bus auto -your papers please- etc etc revel... relax and go to sleeeep you can still protest and say what you want RIGHT?"


The frog is boiling, this police state thing is real, there no need to wait for some big event or outrageous offense it's here. We've got history of other countries to look at to see what's happening here, they had some excuse for not being sure we don't. Ignore the signs at your own peril.

Hey Rev, read this post and wanted to tell you that Posse Comitatus does not apply to the national guard when under state control, nor does it apply to the Coast Guard in any case. Both are free to act in a police capacity. This is why the Coast Guard is a premier weapon in the War on Drugs, and this is also why for instance the National Guard can police Louisiana when a hurricane destroys the state.

As for why? The truth of the matter is because the meth problem got so bad in rural states and the meth dealers themselves were equipping themselves with weapons that local PDs just can't match. We are in effect a state wide SWAT team. Sure Little Rock or even Fayetteville , for example, has a SWAT team , but Harrison or Eureka Springs, again for example, do not. So we basically coordinated with each district drug task force and provided said ability.

I think there is SOME truth to us being over policed, but the National Guard being involved in the drug war isn't one of them.

[Shadow]

some of my post got deleted.
They called her a whore because she appears to be years youngeer than me. They made me sit on the curb, put my hands with fingers interlinked on my head, searched my wife, left cuz they had nothing to charge us with and never apogized.

I have basically always been an upstanding citizen, minus some illegal drug usage in past days.
I never got harrassed like I do regularly now.
HArrased cuz I was riding my bicycle.

THIS is a true story. I came to a stop sign and made a full stop cuz I knew a cop was in the area, and there he was. I looked straight at him hoping he would actually see my stop, and he did look right at me. He still pulled me over even though I was parked already.
He claimed I didnt stop fully UNTIL I LOOKED AT HIM..!!!

Cops treat you like trash, they will get it in return. I HAVE several citizens arrests under my belt, I used to be pro law enforcement, not anymore, I have seen wayyyyy too many of them lie, lie, lie and then lie somemore

I can certainly undertand your frustration...because there have been times I have asked for help from law enforcement only to be told that there is nothing they can do. A lot of the time it seems like the rules are made to protect the criminals. For example...try getting a retraining order on a grown man who is picking up your 14/15 yr old daughter from school without parental permission...or...picking her up and taking her and dropping her off across town at to parties etc after curfew......after being told repeatedly to stop. Can't get one...unless you can prove he intends "harm". Guess you have to wait until they are abducted,abused or hurt before law enforcement will do anything.

[ConHog]

I can certainly undertand your frustration...because there have been times I have asked for help from law enforcement only to be told that there is nothing they can do. A lot of the time it seems like the rules are made to protect the criminals. For example...try getting a retraining order on a grown man who is picking up your 14/15 yr old daughter from school without parental permission...or...picking her up and taking her and dropping her off across town at to parties etc after curfew......after being told repeatedly to stop. Can't get one...unless you can prove he intends "harm". Guess you have to wait until they are abducted,abused or hurt before law enforcement will do anything.

I'm assuming that you are talking about the child's father? Unless there is a court order a school nor the police can just take away his parental rights. A criminal court can't even do that, has to come from family court. Not sure what you expected? Does that mean some pretty shitty parents do some pretty shitty things? Yes it does, but mom (or dad) shouldn't be able to just have the other parent's parental rights taken away just because they don't like what the other is doing.

Have had more than one divorced parent show up at school board meetings screaming at us the school for allowing the other parent to pick up the child when they didn't want them to. Short of a court order there is simply nothing we can do. We don't have the legal standing to say "nope, sorry Mom doesn't want dad picking the kid up, so get out." In fact, we could be sued if we tried.

Now of course show us a court order and we will comply.

[Shadow]

I'm assuming that you are talking about the child's father? Unless there is a court order a school nor the police can just take away his parental rights. A criminal court can't even do that, has to come from family court. Not sure what you expected? Does that mean some pretty shitty parents do some pretty shitty things? Yes it does, but mom (or dad) shouldn't be able to just have the other parent's parental rights taken away just because they don't like what the other is doing.

Have had more than one divorced parent show up at school board meetings screaming at us the school for allowing the other parent to pick up the child when they didn't want them to. Short of a court order there is simply nothing we can do. We don't have the legal standing to say "nope, sorry Mom doesn't want dad picking the kid up, so get out." In fact, we could be sued if we tried.

Now of course show us a court order and we will comply.

No...I'm talking about one of her friends dad.

[ConHog]

No...I'm talking about one of her friends dad.

What is your school doing letting anyone not a parent pick up your child without permission?