Under fire, Trump says he 'misspoke' about Russian interference in U.S. election

[Kathianne]

Tyr has just sent you a great reply, in my opinion.

You're trying to infer an equivalence between what the Left gets, and what the Right gets ... when there IS none. That some criticisms are DESERVED and RICHLY EARNED ... why doesn't that figure in your assessment ?

The Left attacks from a different motivational basis to those who criticise from the Right. I really fail to see how you don't recognise that.

Perhaps you could explain why that is the case ?

Each side credits the other or paints the other as being 'evil.' I get that, always have. Evil is something that is 'there,' to me it's real, then again I have some beliefs that make it real. Problem is, those that claim to be the most 'moral' aren't necessarily so, which doesn't have a political factor imo. It's the choice to do the wrong thing, in private or public.

Most people aren't choosing to do big acts of evil, in fact through ignorance often the evil manifests itself beyond their knowledge. The little acts of evil add to the divisions that cause much of the hurts of the world; from wars to children without parents.

Principles are scoffed at, not from the left or the right, from both and many in between.

As I said earlier, 'harder and faster,' that's the hate speaking-and it's not from one side. Which is getting hurt most? Which side is 'most effective?

[Kathianne]

Are you saying that obama should not have been so viciously attacked by we on the right?
For me, there simply is no room to use the criticisms voiced about and faithfully against the lying, worthless traitor obama and his anti-american, nation destroying actions-- to in anyway attempt to justify what the dems/libs/leftists and mainstream media is currently doing to President Trump.
I will say this to any person alive, obama was and is nothing more than a traitor and a globalist puppet. He is also a muslim...-Tyr

I missed my defense of Obama, in fact I'm pretty sure I rated him as the 'worst.'

In case you missed it, many other folks think that GW, Trump were worse. I think they are wrong, but they believe it as fervently as yourself the opposite.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I missed my defense of Obama, in fact I'm pretty sure I rated him as the 'worst.'

In case you missed it, many other folks think that GW, Trump were worse. I think they are wrong, but they believe it as fervently as yourself the opposite.

""Simple question, when Obama was democratically elected and those who didn't like him, including myself, attacked him for his leadership were they paving the way for Hitler?

FYI, while it isn't my nature to post nonsense like that, you can all go back and look at the memes and such regarding how some on the 'right' viewed Obama, Michelle, even his kids. When asked about 'respect' it was, 'well he's earned this, they did it to GW!'

Personally I think those pictures or GW, Obama, Trump, and any family members really are more telling on those that post them than on their subjects. Let's not pretend that it's only the 'left' though that disrespects those elected.""

In the quote above,the bolded and enlarged in the quote is primarily what led me to comment the way I did my friend. As to me, the comparison was made by you between obama and Trump, how each gets treated. However to me, it is not the matter that both sides do it.
It is the matter that the current rude, insulting discourse, anger, hatred, lies and etc. etc , etc. is by and large, so overblown , so vile, so evil and so filled with deepest depths of pure hatred that no truly meaningful comparison can be made in regards to how the obama was treated, IMHO.
It is to me as if you completely ignored that obama got the amount of disrespect that he and his actions earned, while such is not true with Trump, IMHO.
I get that both sides do it, but one side has now shown it is unhinged, with a foaming at the mouth hatred on a level not seen in modern times.
Even to the point of making up lies in an attempt to impeach trump, destroy people he has selected for government posts, etc.etc. By the way, obama's other half inserted herself and her ignorant leftist agenda politically many times, so derision of her was right on target and also fully justified, IMHO.-TYR

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Whatever "the right" said about obama, including any media, the left, including their media, is giving president Trump 100 times WORSE.

That is just a pure and simple FACT. You can't just say, oh both sides do it, and NOT acknowledge that one side does it FAR, FAR WORSE than the other. You're being DISHONEST if you do.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

This is just the LATEST example of the PURE VITRIOL and HATRED our president has to endure, FROM THE LEFT, on virtually a DAILY BASIS...



Had shit like this happened to obama, CONSTANTLY, the left would have been in an absolute NON STOP APOPLECTIC MELT DOWN.

[Abbey Marie]

Whatever "the right" said about obama, including any media, the left, including their media, is giving president Trump 100 times WORSE.

That is just a pure and simple FACT. You can't just say, oh both sides do it, and NOT acknowledge that one side does it FAR, FAR WORSE than the other. You're being DISHONEST if you do.

Excellent point. Even if regular folks were as relentlessly vicious towards Obama as they are towards Trump (they were not), it could not reach the crescendo of an the 95% anti- Trump 24/7 media grinding away at him (and everyone around him) day after day. Lest anyone forget, Obama was a media darling who walked on water. For that reason alone, there is simply no comparison.

[Black Diamond]

This is just the LATEST example of the PURE VITRIOL and HATRED our president has to endure, FROM THE LEFT, on virtually a DAILY BASIS...



Had shit like this happened to obama, CONSTANTLY, the left would have been in an absolute NON STOP APOPLECTIC MELT DOWN.

Is that Kathy Griffins store front ?

[Black Diamond]

[Kathianne]

so now there is equality in the Trump/Putin presser and Obama giving away the whole enchilada to Iran? I don't think so. That equivalency doesn't work.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

so now there is equality in the Trump/Putin presser and Obama giving away the whole enchilada to Iran? I don't think so. That equivalency doesn't work.

I think that's the point.

[Kathianne]

I think that's the point.

Which doesn't mean that either were good things. That was his point, to divert from the problem.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Which doesn't mean that either were good things. That was his point, to divert from the problem.

No, the point is the selective, manufactured, fake outrage by democrats.

[jimnyc]

so now there is equality in the Trump/Putin presser and Obama giving away the whole enchilada to Iran? I don't think so. That equivalency doesn't work.

I think Obama was way over the rails in what he did in that transaction, but I won't try and make a comparison. I stand by my initial words, which were that the Dems are once again trying to capitalize and turn this yet again into another crazy story. It's not. He's already owned up to the one very little thing that may have mattered. He's far from a man with a great vocabulary, and certainly not an orator! But like I stated in another thread earlier today, I also don't think many folks even cared about what else may have taken place in his meeting. I think folks want to find wrongdoing of some sort and then run with it till their wheels fall of.

Generally speaking, most would look at the entirety of the whole meeting, and of course any screwups in their press conference would be included. But hell, I don't even see our own media talking about anything else. They are obsessed, as if they were democrats themselves.

I think the Iran thing was a monstrous disaster and a loss in the end. I also look at it as lying to the American people, and in more ways than one. I look at Trump purposely insulting the agencies that have been running amok with some employees and some leaders and bringing down his presidency. So he spoke out about them as part of the conference. The "positive" part about anything Russia was his snagged. If he had left that out, but only condemned the US intel agencies for their actions with him, I would have no issue with that at all. And I think, all in all, it's simply not as bad as many are making it to seem. That's MY opinion only though. The Dems didn't like it and then went around forcing others to speak out.

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As an aside, it's absolutely stunning to me, that from Hillary to Obama to Holder to Lynch to the entire lineup of the intel agency folks and everything that we're finding out - that still no one has truly been held responsible for their actions. That bugs me.

[Kathianne]

No, the point is the selective, manufactured, fake outrage by democrats.

You're missing a few that were more than upset that aren't 'squishy Rep' or Democrats. There's some highly intelligent people that are very concerned about what happened in Helsinki. The tweets today did nothing to tamp down those concerns.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You're missing a few that were more than upset that aren't 'squishy Rep' or Democrats. There's some highly intelligent people that are very concerned about what happened in Helsinki. The tweets today did nothing to tamp down those concerns.

Like who... JEFF FLAKE? I'm missing nothing. It's the establishment deep state, they're in both parties. They haven't liked president Trump from day one, from during his campaign even. He's an outsider and doesn't belong in their good ole boys club because he doesn't play by their rules... which is precisely the reason he got elected.

They can all go pound sand.