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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I am well aware of the case without looking. 1868. The Supreme Court covered the US's ass with an after the fact ruling which is unconstitutional. Prior to that, there is NOTHING in writing to support Lincoln and his cause. If I join a gym then quit, you can't come to my house and force me to stay. That's EXACTLY what Lincoln did. NOTHING said a state couldn't secede until Texas v White. And we don't care any damned way. You didn't win shit in this neck of the woods.
    Of course I didn't win anything in your neck of the woods...i wasn't in the civil war..how old do you think i am?
    All SCOTUS rulings are after the fact I think. Regardless, the Constitution provides that SCOTUS is the final arbiter of constitutionality and barring an amendment, that's just the way it is. It's circular reasoning I understand, but that's the deal. You wanna secede, you gotta have consent of the States; it's just a question of how you convince them.

    Besides, I'm not trying to force you to stay in the union. Go ahead and secede.. I'll warn you though, if Texas did you'd have a flood of Americans headed to Texas of biblical proportions. Haha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Of course I didn't win anything in your neck of the woods...i wasn't in the civil war..how old do you think i am?
    All SCOTUS rulings are after the fact I think. Regardless, the Constitution provides that SCOTUS is the final arbiter of constitutionality and barring an amendment, that's just the way it is. It's circular reasoning I understand, but that's the deal. You wanna secede, you gotta have consent of the States; it's just a question of how you convince them.

    Besides, I'm not trying to force you to stay in the union. Go ahead and secede.. I'll warn you though, if Texas did you'd have a flood of Americans headed to Texas of biblical proportions. Haha!
    I'm not trying to do anything but respond to a thread. We already got a bunch of snowbirds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'm not trying to do anything but respond to a thread. We already got a bunch of snowbirds.
    Lol. Fair enough. My point is that it takes consent...whether the States agree and want you out or they get their ass kicked and they begrudgingly agree to let you out-- either way, they consent. So far as the former, it's pretty unlikely For the likes of California, Texas, New York...the union won't just agree to their leaving because they bring in mad $$$$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Lol. Fair enough. My point is that it takes consent...whether the States agree and want you out or they get their ass kicked and they begrudgingly agree to let you out-- either way, they consent. So far as the former, it's pretty unlikely For the likes of California, Texas, New York...the union won't just agree to their leaving because they bring in mad $$$$$.
    We keep circling the bowel like we're doing, I am going to secede from the Union. I've lived all over the world and ain't afraid to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    We keep circling the bowel like we're doing, I am going to secede from the Union. I've lived all over the world and ain't afraid to move.
    I think you meant bowl but both words work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I think you meant bowl but both words work.
    It's early and I haven't had any coffee. Had the AC guy not shown up I'd be still checking my eyelids for leaks.
    Last edited by Gunny; 05-07-2016 at 10:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It's early and I haven't had any coffee. Had the AC guy not shown up I'd be still checking my eyelids for leaks.
    Obama is a bowel.

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