Yay Eagles

[Elessar]

Never said they were Bilgerat. Never said they were. As for cheaters.

I see the entire NFL as cheaters... Eagles included. If they took part...at any time in taking a knee.

I have no respect for them, even if they are great runners, and make the crowds scream.

I have my principles that come before RICH, BLACK/WHITE overgrown kids who play a game.

If they can't respect the country, or the people who made it possible for them to be RICH. Screw 'em all!

I have a huge problem with disrespect for the Flag, Anthem, Vets and the people that pay them - the Fans!

[Elessar]

Okay. I'll give you the coal cinders.

I played on a field that was half sand in 29 Palms. Everything in 29 Palms has sand in it, on it, under it ...

One Rec League in Queens NYC was on asphalt. That took some ginger moving about.!

[Russ]

The Eagles ain't "Pure as the driven snow"

http://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/

Bilge, no offense but I have to say that this site is total crap, and its 'cheat ratings' are completely meaningless. It counts individual players failing or missing a drug test as a cheating scandal in the same realm as the team systematically breaking the rules for unearned wins. The website is most likely heavily funded by people in the Boston area.

The NE Patriots are the only team in my memory where both the coach and the quarterback have been officially convicted of cheating by the NFL, along with a fines, lengthy suspensions, and loss of draft picks. They are the biggest cheaters in sports, imho, up there with Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds.

[Gunny]

Bilge, no offense but I have to say that this site is total crap, and its 'cheat ratings' are completely meaningless. It counts individual players failing or missing a drug test as a cheating scandal in the same realm as the team systematically breaking the rules for unearned wins. The website is most likely heavily funded by people in the Boston area.

The NE Patriots are the only team in my memory where both the coach and the quarterback have been officially convicted of cheating by the NFL, along with a fines, lengthy suspensions, and loss of draft picks. They are the biggest cheaters in sports, imho, up there with Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds.

"Convicted" by that spineless jellyfish Robert Goodell and his as the wind blows convictions? I don't like the coach, QB nor any other part of the Patriots, but THAT was the biggest joke in the world. Over-or-underinflating balls. What BS.

Let's don't forget Buddy Ryan. THERE was a class act. All coaches shouls act just like him.

[Abbey Marie]

"Convicted" by that spineless jellyfish Robert Goodell and his as the wind blows convictions? I don't like the coach, QB nor any other part of the Patriots, but THAT was the biggest joke in the world. Over-or-underinflating balls. What BS.

Let's don't forget Buddy Ryan. THERE was a class act. All coaches shouls act just like him.

I think Russ is referring to the Pats videotaping the opposing teams' calls.

[Gunny]

I think Russ is referring to the Pats videotaping the opposing teams calls.

Honestly Abbey, I'm just I'm not trying to insult anyone. I really DON'T care who wins.

[Abbey Marie]

Honestly Abbey, I'm just I'm not trying to insult anyone. I really DON'T care who wins.

Lol. And I agree about Buddy Ryan. Ugh.

[Russ]

I think Russ is referring to the Pats videotaping the opposing teams calls.

To clarify, Bill Belichick was convicted for the videotaping opposing teams defensive formations (Spygate) and Tom Brady was convicted of underinflated footballs (Deflategate). The Spygate scandal only makes sense if they were radioing the information in to Tom Brady so that he would know in advance what the defense was going to do, and that is why I think Brady is a cheater, much more than Deflategate. Although in Deflategate, Brady's actions showed that he thought he was doing something wrong - he definitely went to some lengths to hide his actions.

By the way, I will say that I considered Bill Belichick the best coach in the NFL up until I heard about Spygate. And I will say that without the cheating scandals I would by now consider Bill and Tom to be the best coach and the best quarterback in NFL history. It's just that I think that Great Coach + Cheating = Cheater, not Great Coach + Cheating = Great and Savvy Coach.

[Black Diamond]

To clarify, Bill Belichick was convicted for the videotaping opposing teams defensive formations (Spygate) and Tom Brady was convicted of underinflated footballs (Deflategate). The Spygate scandal only makes sense if they were radioing the information in to Tom Brady so that he would know in advance what the defense was going to do, and that is why I think Brady is a cheater, much more than Deflategate. Although in Deflategate, Brady's actions showed that he thought he was doing something wrong - he definitely went to some lengths to hide his actions.

By the way, I will say that I considered Bill Belichick the best coach in the NFL up until I heard about Spygate. And I will say that without the cheating scandals I would by now consider Bill and Tom to be the best coach and the best quarterback in NFL history. It's just that I think that Great Coach + Cheating = Cheater, not Great Coach + Cheating = Great and Savvy Coach.

Convicted by whom?

[Russ]

Convicted by whom?

The NFL office. Not a court of law, but the equivalent for NFL violations.

[Gunny]

The NFL office. Not a court of law, but the equivalent for NFL violations.

That conviction and $1,000 will buy you a legally purchased handgun.

[Abbey Marie]

That conviction and $1,000 will buy you a legally purchased handgun.

What difference does that make? The question is "Did they cheat"? and the organization least likely to want a cheating scandal to go public said, "Yes".

[Gunny]

What difference does that make? The question is "Did they cheat"? and the organization least likely to want a cheating scandal to go public said, "Yes".

I don't believe they did. And I have about as much respect for Goodell and any decision he makes as I do Hillary Clinton. Being "convicted" by Roger Goodell has zero credibility with me.

Oh, my comment was speaking to the legal impact a Roger Goodell conviction has in the real world.

[Bilgerat]

[Russ]

I don't believe they did. And I have about as much respect for Goodell and any decision he makes as I do Hillary Clinton. Being "convicted" by Roger Goodell has zero credibility with me.

Oh, my comment was speaking to the legal impact a Roger Goodell conviction has in the real world.

Gunny, while I respect your opinion, I do believe they did cheat. The conviction by Goodell is not a big factor in that belief, but it does put the Patriots on a very short list of teams that have been punished by the NFL for cheating. There is ample evidence besides Goodell's ruling, though, such as the former assistant coach from the Patriots admitting what had happened after he'd gone to the Jets. Trust me, he wasn't doing that to enhance his NFL career. And the video tapes he provided, but that were burned by the NFL office. The cheating stories are not made up out of thin air.

That said, I won't bring it up any more.