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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    the strategy is flawed, in my opinion, and would be so if John Kerry or John Kennedy or FDR were proposing it. The fact that it comes from a guy whose administration has a pretty incredible record of missteps regarding Iraq is another story entirely.
    What strategy would that be?
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    What strategy would that be?
    The surge, sarge.

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    sending 20K American troops into Baghdad and Anbar Province smack dab in the middle of a civil conflict that the sunnis and shiites of Iraq are bound and determined to get into.

    That would be an idiotic thing to do, in my opinion, even if every democrat from the dawn of time thought otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    sending 20K American troops into Baghdad and Anbar Province smack dab in the middle of a civil conflict that the sunnis and shiites of Iraq are bound and determined to get into.

    That would be an idiotic thing to do, in my opinion, even if every democrat from the dawn of time thought otherwise.
    yes sending reinforcements into a war zone is pretty stupid stuff....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    yes sending reinforcements into a war zone is pretty stupid stuff....
    Yes. It is when the problem is a civil war amongst the people.

    "The rapture is not an exit strategy", just saw that on du. It describes most of you bushbots to a t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Yes. It is when the problem is a civil war amongst the people.
    germany was a civil war....just one side did not have guns....we reinforced that....why do the middleastern people mean so little to you?

    also....

    there is not a civil war amongst the people .... there is religous killing and ethnic cleansing among two of the three relgious groups like ireland, bosnia, darfur and rawanda....there are mercenaries from outside the country fighting agianst the west...same people that blew up the cole wtc. madrid, london bali nigeria, somalia etc.... and then there is the gurellia war that the bathists are waging aginst the coalition military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    germany was a civil war....just one side did not have guns....we reinforced that....why do the middleastern people mean so little to you?
    I;m just not excited about having to compete with a new slave labor resource in the mideast, though it may be good for your portfolio.

    also....

    there is not a civil war amongst the people .... there is religous killing and ethnic cleansing among two of the three relgious groups like ireland, bosnia, darfur and rawanda....there are mercenaries from outside the country fighting agianst the west...same people that blew up the cole wtc. madrid, london bali nigeria, somalia etc.... and then there is the gurellia war that the bathists are waging aginst the coalition military.
    Civil wars are often based on religion and ethnicity. Using different words doesn't change reality. You know that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    "The rapture is not an exit strategy", just saw that on du. It describes most of you bushbots to a t.
    bushbots? .... you moral high ground, intelligent, educated, tollerant, open minded, fair and accepting blue staters would never jump to insults or sweeping generalizations...must be a typo....cuz all yall are uniters not dividers

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    sending 20K American troops into Baghdad and Anbar Province smack dab in the middle of a civil conflict that the sunnis and shiites of Iraq are bound and determined to get into.

    That would be an idiotic thing to do, in my opinion, even if every democrat from the dawn of time thought otherwise.
    That isn't a strategy .... it's an assumption. Whether or not 20K more military personnel will make a difference will depend on how they are deployed.

    You assume automatically they will be deployed in some useless manner. There is new leadership, and supposedly different tactics going to be used, according to what is being said.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    bushbots? .... you moral high ground, intelligent, educated, tollerant, open minded, fair and accepting blue staters would never jump to insults or sweeping generalizations...must be a typo....cuz all yall are uniters not dividers



    Im not a blue stater or a dem. Im a true conservative american nationalist. Screw the new world order mason-o-jewish corpocracy!

    Bushbots are a clearly identifiable group, you're one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    I;m just not excited about having to compete with a new slave labor resource in the mideast, though it may be good for your portfolio.
    Civil wars are often based on religion and ethnicity. Using different words doesn't change reality. You know that, right?
    what a great response .... disdane, insults and intollerance .... and to top it off, more distane for the people of the middel east ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    what a great response .... disdane, insults and intollerance .... and to top it off, more distane for the people of the middel east ....
    You sound like a liberal.

    You think anyone in the middle-east wants us there, besides israel? My god, you believe your own propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Im not a blue stater or a dem. Im a true conservative american nationalist. Screw the new world order mason-o-jewish corpocracy!

    Bushbots are a clearly identifiable group, you're one.
    define bush bot......conservative american nationalist = white supremest no

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    what a great response .... disdane, insults and intollerance .... and to top it off, more distane for the people of the middel east ....
    where is the disdain insult or intolerance in my statement below? I just don't see it, Goofy.


    Quote Originally Posted by me
    I;m just not excited about having to compete with a new slave labor resource in the mideast, though it may be good for your portfolio.
    Civil wars are often based on religion and ethnicity. Using different words doesn't change reality. You know that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    You sound like a liberal.

    You think anyone in the middle-east wants us there, besides israel? My god, you believe your own propaganda.
    thought i was a bushbot.....now i am a liberal? which is it

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