Best US President?

[red states rule]

oh bullshit. I asked you a question about the deficit. answer the goddamn question or shut the fuck up, but PUHLEESE quit blathering you inane one liner talking points.

to you historical facts are now talking points

[retiredman]

to you historical facts are now talking points

no...they are not answers to the question. do you have any historical facts about the size of Reagan's budget submissions?

[mrg666]

statics have to go out the window
who in your mind was best ?

[manu1959]

statics have to go out the window
who in your mind was best ?

i say lincoln...or there would be no US as we know it.....

who was the best PM?

[JimmyAteWorld]

Wow, it actually got back on topic.

I say Washington. One of the most critical times in any nations history is when it all begins. I don't know if there was anyone that could have been our first president and have the country survive.

[Hagbard Celine]

Wow, it actually got back on topic.

I say Washington. One of the most critical times in any nations history is when it all begins. I don't know if there was anyone that could have been our first president and have the country survive.

He was also man enough not to accept the kingship that was offered to him for the betterment of the nation. I wouldn't be able to turn down a kingship.

[glockmail]

He was also man enough not to accept the kingship that was offered to him for the betterment of the nation. I wouldn't be able to turn down a kingship.

The story I heard was that they offered him 12 beautiful slave virgins dressed in french maid outfits to go along with the job. He was frothing at the whole idea until Martha found out about it, stepped in and quashed the whole concept. We owe it to her for coming up with the present form of presidential office with limited powers.

[manu1959]

can you post the same figures for those categories having to do with the Reagan administration, while you're at it?

so reagan being a cheat justifys clinton being a cheat......or are you saying clinton is no better than reagan.....

[glockmail]

so reagan being a cheat justifys clinton being a cheat......or are you saying clinton is no better than reagan.....

The difference of course is that Reagan cheated for the benefit of others, who he did not know persoannly, while Clinton cheated to get his rocks off.

[manu1959]

The difference of course is that Reagan cheated for the benefit of others, who he did not know persoannly, while Clinton cheated to get his rocks off.

cheating is a sin.......

wonder who would win an election reagan vs clinton.....

[glockmail]

cheating is a sin.......

wonder who would win an election reagan vs clinton.....

Clinton never won more than 43 (or was it 47) % of the popular vote. Reagan won by wide margins.

[manu1959]

Clinton never won more than 43 (or was it 47) % of the popular vote. Reagan won by wide margins.

reagan didn't run against clinton......i mean in the context of what we know about them both now.....

both presided over great economic expansion and both had scandals.....

[bullypulpit]

I'd have to say FDR:
-Rescued us from the depression
-New Deal programs saved us from a communist revolution (I've taken IB US History and yes, modern historians agree that the conditions of the depression could have very easily sparked a communist revolution)
-Fucked up Japan...helped Europe fuck up Hitler.
-Was a great communicator (fireside chats, amazing speeches) i.e. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

Or, just as easily, a fascist revolution. There were many admirers of Adolph Hitler in the US at that time. Charles Lindbergh...Henry Ford...Prescott Bush...

[glockmail]

reagan didn't run against clinton......i mean in the context of what we know about them both now.....

both presided over great economic expansion and both had scandals.....

Reagan inherited Carter's economic disaster, cut taxes, bolstered the military, brought this country out of a recession and started the longest period of prosperity in its history. Clinton was smart enough not to mess with a good thing, kept Reagan's Greenspan and most of his economic policies, and basically rode the Reagan wave of propsperity for all it was worth. Clinton'r big mistake was being soft on terrorism which is what Bush 43 inhereted.

[bullypulpit]

Reagan inherited Carter's economic disaster, cut taxes, bolstered the military, brought this country out of a recession and started the longest period of prosperity in its history. Clinton was smart enough not to mess with a good thing, kept Reagan's Greenspan and most of his economic policies, and basically rode the Reagan wave of propsperity for all it was worth. Clinton'r big mistake was being soft on terrorism which is what Bush 43 inhereted.

Ah...Yes...Blame Clinton for everything. You intellectual bankruptcy is showing.