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    Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbcoop View Post
    Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.
    Welcome!


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    Can a mod change the title of this thread to whine about staff...
    He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.AeschylusRead more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...zeMUwcpY1Io.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbcoop View Post
    Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.
    Welcome BBcoop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbcoop View Post
    Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.
    Hello, Bbcoop - welcome. Hope you enjoy the forum.

    I see that you say you've accepted Logroller's invitation to join this forum ? Interesting.

    What would you say particularly recommended the invitation ? Are you and he friends ? Comrades ? Do you know each other from other forums or mutual interests ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Strangely enough, I don't find that to be very reassuring !

    I can't speak for America, but where the UK is concerned, Libertarianism is seen as at least broadly Socialist. Granted, there has been debate about that. But, in the main at least, Libertarianism is perceived in that way.

    One of the more notably Left-wing leaders the Labour Party ever had, described himself as a Libertarian. I refer to Michael Foot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

    Sir Drummond. You may not be aware of this but. We had a talk-radio personality named Neil Boortz who was a Die-hard Libertarian...to some extent. On his webpage, he also had a test visitors could use to determine their political leanings...so to speak.
    I took that test three times, and with very little variation. I came up as a Libertarian as well.
    Boortz and I disagree on the legalization of MJ and drugs. Which many Libertarians still believe is the right answer.
    Otherwise. As a Libertarian. I found myself being labeled by others, much like conservative, republicans are always labeled. And I deny having any Liberal ideology to claim. WHICH is why I find myself in such disagreement with people like Logroller, and other members who claim to be somewhat conservative...to their own limitations.
    Unlike many of them. I stand behind, and demand FULL compliance with our Laws, and Constitution. Which I have also discovered, isn't totally in agreement with many Libertarians...to many extents, or stretches of their Liberal Idiological claims as Libertarians.
    Therefore. I find myself in disagreement with Log, fj, and several others whom..in the long run...are actually disguised RINO's.
    (Republicans In Name Only) here in the USA.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Sir Drummond. You may not be aware of this but. We had a talk-radio personality named Neil Boortz who was a Die-hard Libertarian...to some extent. On his webpage, he also had a test visitors could use to determine their political leanings...so to speak.
    I took that test three times, and with very little variation. I came up as a Libertarian as well.
    Boortz and I disagree on the legalization of MJ and drugs. Which many Libertarians still believe is the right answer.
    Otherwise. As a Libertarian. I found myself being labeled by others, much like conservative, republicans are always labeled. And I deny having any Liberal ideology to claim. WHICH is why I find myself in such disagreement with people like Logroller, and other members who claim to be somewhat conservative...to their own limitations.
    Unlike many of them. I stand behind, and demand FULL compliance with our Laws, and Constitution. Which I have also discovered, isn't totally in agreement with many Libertarians...to many extents, or stretches of their Liberal Idiological claims as Libertarians.
    Therefore. I find myself in disagreement with Log, fj, and several others whom..in the long run...are actually disguised RINO's.
    (Republicans In Name Only) here in the USA.
    Not being snarky. Can you explain what you mean by the bolded? 'die hard' and 'somewhat' confuse me.

    From what I know of libertarians, you don't fit into the definition, I hope that's a comfort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Thanks for your assurances. I'm going to take you at your word and see what happens.

    Bear in mind this, though. I gave you one example of how a Leftie forum operated. I could cite you another of a further forum - yes, that one American - that, in the name of freedom of speech, exercised very little moderation. It was joined by, and became 'dominated' by, a large contingent of Right-wing contributors.

    I was recommended to that site by an American lady, and debated there, quite happily, for a couple of years. Then ... WHAM !! ... along came 2004, US election year, and suddenly a mass of Left-wing trolls descended on to the site. Their activities were disgusting. Debate became nearly impossible. Whole threads became nothing but cesspits of abuse. Many of us Right-wingers battled on, but eventually jumped ship. We felt we had to.

    The Left does have its agenda, and once it digs its heels in to a site, it either 'terraforms' it into something it can use for itself, or, it goes on a wrecking spree.

    So, that all said .. I thank you for your assurances, Jim (... and if you doubt that my account is accurate, I'll happily identify the site to you in a PM ..).
    Oh, I believe you! Anyone wanting an idea of what a left wing kook ran site looks like, simply go to democraticunderground! All you need do there is introduce yourself as a republican and they will ban you. They WANT voices from only one side. My old board, which went from like 500,000 posts to about 7 million since I sold it, is infested with chaos and fighting. Great, threads are 20 pages long an hour after you start them, but they are useless. I know what you speak of.

    But one man is not an infestation, and he's not the type you would ever find schmoozing over at DU either. I know you may not want to hear it, but he's WAY more conservative than he is a leftie - just not entirely right wing cool nutcases like you and I.

    The only thing I would like to get overrun by is good discussions. If what you saw at that old board ever happens here - remind me - I'll pay the fees for a new domain and hosting and start us a new website myself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbcoop View Post
    Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.
    Welcome, Coop! I was going to call you BB, but we have a BillyBob here and I would be confused. Or maybe I can type out the entire 6 characters?

    Welcome to DP
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Hello, Bbcoop - welcome. Hope you enjoy the forum.

    I see that you say you've accepted Logroller's invitation to join this forum ? Interesting.

    What would you say particularly recommended the invitation ? Are you and he friends ? Comrades ? Do you know each other from other forums or mutual interests ?
    Drummond sorry to go here but..

    the main letters in his screen name abbreviate to B-B-C.
    That should tell you something right there.
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-31-2013 at 05:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Not being snarky. Can you explain what you mean by the bolded? 'die hard' and 'somewhat' confuse me.

    From what I know of libertarians, you don't fit into the definition, I hope that's a comfort.

    Kathianne. Really? A learned woman like yourself, not knowing what the expression 'die-hard' would be used for? If that confused you. You may just be a Libertarian who endorses, and agree's with legalizing drug usage. Is that close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Drummond sorry to go here but..

    the main letters in his screen name abbreviate to B-B-C.
    That should tell you something right there.
    BbCoop

    CO-OP = ???!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Kathianne. Really? A learned woman like yourself, not knowing what the expression 'die-hard' would be used for? If that confused you. You may just be a Libertarian who endorses, and agree's with legalizing drug usage. Is that close?
    I'll answer after you do. Really, how can one be a 'die hard' anything, while also qualifying for 'somewhat?'

    It's not my intelligence that is questionable, it's the English language perchance? We all know you would never make a mistake, at least in the last 50 years or so.


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    WTF? Four pages of kvetching just because Log was made a moderator?

    Here's a tip...


    Don't be a dick and you'll have nothing to worry about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Drummond sorry to go here but..

    the main letters in his screen name abbreviate to B-B-C.
    That should tell you something right there.
    I'd rather our newcomer answered for himself, thanks, Revelarts ...
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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