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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I think folks know how i feel about censorship,
    by the U.S. gov't or corporations.
    I for one admit my shortcomings and things I may have seen as more conspiracy theory material is now believable. And things about our govt. I trusted and was naive. There were easily times you brought things forward that were likely way more accurate than I gave credit for.

    in the case of U.S. communications it's clear that at this point the media and tech companies literally can shut off or promote ANY messages they want.

    We now know the political landscape is RUN on the backs of the MSM, Internet, Social media, Email, Google, and ISP Services. If they decide any candidate or politician is "dangerous", then there's no way to use the primary communication mediums.
    The way Americans still mainly receive their news is via television. And many still use regular broadcast channels. And some have moved over to cable television news. They trust the news to be accurate, just as the scores of last nights games and what the weather will be like today and tomorrow. The factual news we receive should be just as clear, but its not, not nearly.

    And the internet isn't a ton different. Except enter social media and email & "internet service providers" which are needed for all of the above. And we watched while the news we were delivered was a TON of lies and censorship & basically positive advertising for the left while condemning only the right. Went on for 4 years but came out strongly in the past year and in an in your face manner.

    Social media wasn't bad but seemingly grew worse as the 4 years went on, and then went into election mode in the past year as well. And oddly, it was as if they coordinated their plans at times. Many many things deleted, or didn't appear due to shadow banning, then the suspensions galore and we all know how the last year and then last week has went. *** And when folks seem to say, ok enough is enough, we'll leave and do our own thing, they try to blackball those efforts in every way possible. By not allowing in the open market system which is primarily needed to install apps on your devices. Then they hit the hosting providers & also email provider. What happens next and where things go to is unknown.

    And all sides have fallen in love with banning others, "Ban Muslims!" "Ban Alex Jones!" "Ban Kapernick!" "Ban Chic-Fil-A!" etc etc. But the left has gone off the deep end with no foundational philosophy to bring them back to the concept of "Free Speech" or Equal Access.
    It's pushed the boundaries of common sense. As now all that is needed is a growing group of people to simply send public twitter messages to the employees company to embarrass them out of a job. WAY way too many unnecessary firings and banning and censoring. Won't find much of an argument from me in here.

    But, Looks like "big brother" is being fast tracked.
    In reference to the big tech on the internet & MSM coordination and censorship - went from 50 to 1000 MPH in guinness record time.

    I pray the best for all of you and hope you all have/will trust in God through Jesus Christ, for today and eternity.
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    Well, Rev, I will be the first to admit that I thought you were taking things too far with regards to how far big tech would go. Honestly, it appears that the entire country has lost it's collective mind in the headlong rush to censorship and outright fascist behavior.

    I don't even like using the word fascist due to millions of idiotic Americans ironically using it. It feels like Bizarro World.

    At any rate, you were correct in predicting where this all was leading as I trusted that the ordinarily smart people running the show would pump the brakes, but that didn't happen.

    Yes, they need to be broken up, I see that now, but that certainly won't have a chance of happening until 2022 at the earliest. Democrats certainly aren't going to punish their largest allies.
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    I just downloaded Brave browser for my phone, using it right now. I'll test for a while and report back with my opinion of it.

    So far, so good. Feels fast and light, and automatically blocks ads and prevents tracking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I just downloaded Brave browser for my phone, using it right now. I'll test for a while and report back with my opinion of it.

    So far, so good. Feels fast and light, and automatically blocks ads and prevents tracking.
    Have you tried GAB's DIssenter browser? If you do please let me know how you like it.

    GAB seems like the best alternative to me. Not beholden to any tech company. Actually hired some silicon valley dissenters from FB to help him.

    They have alternative to FB, Twitter, YouTube, Google and smart phone without Google.

    Trouble right now is they are inundated with all the people leaving the other platforms. And, dealing with people like senator Warner, NYT and Washington Post trying to take them down.

    And, the fact that he's a Christian puts a huge target on his back.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Have you tried GAB's DIssenter browser? If you do please let me know how you like it.

    GAB seems like the best alternative to me. Not beholden to any tech company. Actually hired some silicon valley dissenters from FB to help him.

    They have alternative to FB, Twitter, YouTube, Google and smart phone without Google.

    Trouble right now is they are inundated with all the people leaving the other platforms. And, dealing with people like senator Warner, NYT and Washington Post trying to take them down.

    And, the fact that he's a Christian puts a huge target on his back.
    Not yet, Dissenter is next on my list to try out.

    Also looking to change phone OS to completely cut Google out of my life, but that's a big deal and I'll research that thoroughly.


    Oh, and there's an alternative to Amazon, btw : Wayfair. Shar and I bought the most awesome electric kid's car from Wayfair - only because Amazon was sold out, at the time - and they only charged $15 shipping to Alaska from Tennessee. The box was almost 6' long and weighed 66 pounds, so that was a real bargain!

    I couldn't resist a Lamborghini in my life - and it has a remote control for it, so I can drive my grandson around in it until he's ready to take the wheel!

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    I've got a ton of digital movies that I bought on Amazon, and that was a mistake. Live and learn. I've spent tens of thousands on various things on Amazon, but no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Not yet, Dissenter is next on my list to try out.

    Also looking to change phone OS to completely cut Google out of my life, but that's a big deal and I'll research that thoroughly.


    Oh, and there's an alternative to Amazon, btw : Wayfair.

    I've got a ton of digital movies that I bought on Amazon, and that was a mistake. Live and learn. I've spent tens of thousands on various things on Amazon, but no more.
    Which way does Wayfair lean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Which way does Wayfair lean?
    I'm guessing based on past actions, not towards the right. At least the employees:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/25/wayf...tion-camp.html

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...ut-in-protest/


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Which way does Wayfair lean?
    On Monday, Wayfair management responded with an internal statement, saying that “it is standard practice to fulfill orders for all customers and we believe it is our business to sell to any customer who is acting within the laws of the countries within which we operate.” The statement added, “[T]his does not indicate support for the opinions or actions of the groups or individuals who purchase from us.”

    Sounds like the position all businesses should take. They didn't cave to the SJW Liberal mob employees.
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    Came across this article tonight. Lists some alternatives and what we have talked of already.

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    Sick Of Communist-Like Censorship? Here’s A List Of Popular Uncensored Media Options

    From 100 Percent Fed Up – Survive The Purge: A List Of Popular Uncensored Alternative Media Options

    With the current media purge of conservative, libertarian, independent, and non-establishment voices in high gear, we thought it would be beneficial to list some of the alternatives to each globalist media platform. This does not constitute official endorsements and this list is by no means exhaustive. So please do check back to this article for additional sources from time to time.

    The great news is, there are many amazing options to stay connected to each other and to the news. They aren’t all as evolved as the multi-billion dollar corporations you are used to, but most are competent technically and already have many users. Also, you may find that some of the platforms provide better functionality than the legacy media you are leaving.

    We believe this list is a good start to get the message out as rational free-thinking Americans on all sides of the aisle sever their ties to authoritarian anti-speech platforms. But, please leave your favorite additional media sources in the comments so others can stay connected.

    TWITTER:

    Gab

    Parler: Parler is a Twitter clone run by free-speech advocates. Last night, Amazon removed Parler from its servers. They are now being sued by Parler who claims their decision to remove the free speech company from their servers was politically motivated. Dan Bongino, an investor in Parler, says it will be up again within a day on different servers.

    Here’s a message from Parler CEO John Matze about how big tech bullies are trying to “squash” free speech alternatives.



    FACEBOOK:

    MeWe

    Clouthub: It is owned by a conservative. According to its website, CloutHub is a non-biased platform. We support free speech and protect your privacy. We don’t data-mine, track, or sell user data. We don’t suppress your reach or manipulate what you get to see. We empower our members to influence the issues they care about.

    FACEBOOK MESSENGER:

    Telegram Messenger: Telegram offers end-to-end encryption of chats and a range of features beyond that of Facebook Messenger that foster community growth and large file uploads. However, it must be noted that some people believe it has connections to Russia. Also, Telegram’s best encryption is opt-in and not automatic, meaning you must specifically select ‘secret encrypted chat’ in order to get the most secure communication. It also has a desktop version to make texting easy from pc to phone.

    Signal: Signal is highly recommended and is considered the safest texting app. In addition, it has some other functionality and seems to allow larger file transfers than normal texts. It also has a desktop version to make texting easy from pc to phone.

    Discord: Is not especially encrypted, but offers communities and servers that are not part of Facebook. It also has a desktop version to make texting easy from pc to phone.

    YOUTUBE:

    Rumble

    Vimeo

    Bitchute

    Brighteon

    GOOGLE SEARCH:

    Duck Duck Go: A search engine that does not seem to censor or manipulate search engine results like Google. Unlike Google, it also says it doesn’t store your data, as Google does. Try searching for political stories on DuckDuckGo vs. Google. You will see a difference in them, as well as non-political stories which are also manipulated by google.

    WEB BROWSER:

    Brave Browser: Brave boasts that it is “three times faster than Chrome. Better privacy by default than Firefox. Uses 35% less battery on mobile.” It also supports Tor browser on its desktop app, which helps protect you from the prying eyes of the sites you visit. Its Brave content community is funded via Basic Attention crypto tokens and opt-in ads. These tokens can be purchased on crypto exchanges or gained by choosing to view ads. This is what sustains the Brave business rather than harvesting and theft of all your user data. These tokens can also be given, if the user chooses, to content creators on websites they like. Unlike Google, Brave also says it doesn’t store any of your data.

    Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...media-options/
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I just downloaded Brave browser for my phone, using it right now. I'll test for a while and report back with my opinion of it.

    So far, so good. Feels fast and light, and automatically blocks ads and prevents tracking.
    I’ve been using Brave on my iPhone for a couple of years. It works with DP better than the others.
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    Thank you, @revelarts for your prayers. It means a lot.
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