The US government did it

[Dilloduck]

I didnt claim that... ever.

I'm not here saying they could have shot the planes down or stopped them at the border or even stopped them from getting on the plane, i'm just saying they couldn't(or at least it's very very very unlikely they did, which means 3 seperate occasions is a real stretch) have taken over the pilots of a jet airliner and all those passengers enough to fly huge commercial jets the way they did with the training they had.

all I ever cited was the fact that little things rarely happen, because we are an incredibly rich country, it's only the big things that end up benefitting the people who hold power in this country.

pppppsssssssssssssssssssttttt---bin ladens' cult really wants to kill us and they really do have the ability.

[loosecannon]

pppppsssssssssssssssssssttttt---bin ladens' cult really wants to kill us and they really do have the ability.

Ability to kill how many of us DD?

During the cold war we were prepared to attack the USSR even tho studies showed that 120 million Americans might die as a result.

In a list of causes of death among Americans in the last 7 years terrorism might rank 40th.

And I do not expect that under ANY circumstances it will ever crest above tenth in a ten year period.

Whereas the civil war was THE leading cause of American deaths during it's term.

And Americans kill 30,000 Americans every year.

Lets get our priorities straight.

[chum43]

thank you... terrorism is relatively a non-threat... and we could keep it that way by staying out of the middle east and stop giving everyone the means to attack to us, and stop supplying the world with nukes.

[Dilloduck]

Ability to kill how many of us DD?

During the cold war we were prepared to attack the USSR even tho studies showed that 120 million Americans might die as a result.

In a list of causes of death among Americans in the last 7 years terrorism might rank 40th.

And I do not expect that under ANY circumstances it will ever crest above tenth in a ten year period.

Whereas the civil war was THE leading cause of American deaths during it's term.

And Americans kill 30,000 Americans every year.

Lets get our priorities straight.

They shoot us in the wallet. Bin Laden ain't stupid. How much do you think his 9/11 attack has cost us altogether so far ? I can think of at 10 good ways to send America into a spiral of fear. ( and no--- I ain't gonna announce em) Hint--we're dependent--I mean seriously dependent on far more than oil.

[Kathianne]

Ability to kill how many of us DD?

During the cold war we were prepared to attack the USSR even tho studies showed that 120 million Americans might die as a result.

In a list of causes of death among Americans in the last 7 years terrorism might rank 40th.

And I do not expect that under ANY circumstances it will ever crest above tenth in a ten year period.

Whereas the civil war was THE leading cause of American deaths during it's term.

And Americans kill 30,000 Americans every year.

Lets get our priorities straight.

Ok, first we deal with cancer, auto accidents, heart disease, diabetes, etc. Then we get around to terrorism. Got it.

[nevadamedic]

pppppsssssssssssssssssssttttt---bin ladens' cult really wants to kill us and they really do have the ability.

[loosecannon]

They shoot us in the wallet. Bin Laden ain't stupid. How much do you think his 9/11 attack has cost us altogether so far ? I can think of at 10 good ways to send America into a spiral of fear. ( and no--- I ain't gonna announce em) Hint--we're dependent--I mean seriously dependent on far more than oil.

At least half the damage done to the US by 9/11 was self inflicted. We ruined our standing in the world, wrecked our own military, spent half a trillion dollars on a war that was counterproductive and then got stuck with no solution.

We followed Bush straight into Bin Laden's trap.

[loosecannon]

Ok, first we deal with cancer, auto accidents, heart disease, diabetes, etc. Then we get around to terrorism. Got it.

You always deal with the things that you have direct control over first.

Then you address threats in order of risks associated.

Even Bin Laden was a product of the US intervening in the ME, as was Saddam. It is called blowback. Mistakes of decades past come around again.

So in typical blunder fashion we respond by sowing the seeds for far larger problems and Bin Laden is still free.

Way ta go Georgie!

[TheSage]

You always deal with the things that you have direct control over first.

Then you address threats in order of risks associated.

Even Bin Laden was a product of the US intervening in the ME, as was Saddam. It is called blowback. Mistakes of decades past come around again.

So in typical blunder fashion we respond by sowing the seeds for far larger problems and Bin Laden is still free.

Way ta go Georgie!

Your duty demarcation lines are on the wrong vector. The causes of cancer we can control are generally related to personal behavior, obesity, smoking etcetera, hence, they are best dealt with on a individual basis. Dealing with military threats to the society at large are righfully a function of government, hence, the government focuses it's actions in that realm.

[diuretic]

Your duty demarcation lines are on the wrong vector. The causes of cancer we can control are generally related to personal behavior, obesity, smoking etcetera, hence, they are best dealt with on a individual basis.

How do we know that?

Dealing with military threats to the society at large are righfully a function of government, hence, the government focuses it's actions in that realm.

It rightfully focusses some of its resources and actions there, yes.

[Dilloduck]

You always deal with the things that you have direct control over first.

Then you address threats in order of risks associated.

Even Bin Laden was a product of the US intervening in the ME, as was Saddam. It is called blowback. Mistakes of decades past come around again.

So in typical blunder fashion we respond by sowing the seeds for far larger problems and Bin Laden is still free.

Way ta go Georgie!

Bin Laden is/was the product of being a spoiled rich kid combined with his insane, radical, and barbaric theological beliefs.

[TheSage]

How do we know that?

Know what? You need to refine your question.

[Dilloduck]

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/200...?currentPage=5

you read and educate yourself so you know what you're taknig about.

[loosecannon]

Bin Laden is/was the product of being a spoiled rich kid combined with his insane, radical, and barbaric theological beliefs.

He was also the product of being our mercenary force in Afghanistan defeating the Soviets. We armed him, supported him and when the war was over abandoned the mujajidin to decay in a broken society that gave birth to the taliban's reign.

The Taliban consisted mostly of kids who were the only males left after the war. Kids who grew up in an environment of constant war.

They sell afghan rugs at a local shop. The rugs are decorated with machine guns and tanks and weapons weaved into the pattern.

Bin Laden is as much a product of being our tool as he is a spoiled rich kid. In fact most of his family has had three decades of business relationships with our president and his family.

Maybe GWB is/was the product of being a spoiled rich kid combined with his insane, radical, and barbaric theological beliefs.

[typomaniac]

pppppsssssssssssssssssssttttt---bin ladens' cult really wants to kill us and they really do have the ability.

Then why HAVEN'T they already???

God, you're an idiot.