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Main Entry: spe·ciousOriginally Posted by glockmail
Pronunciation: \ˈspē-shəs\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, visually pleasing, from Latin speciosus beautiful, plausible, from species
Date: 1513
1<i> obsolete</i> : showy
2: having deceptive attraction or allure
3: having a false look of truth or genuineness : sophistic [<i>specious</i> reasoning]
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
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Deflection. Look it up yourself.
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Securing "the Blessings of Liberty" is not the same thing as securing "the Blessings of Christ", and using the idomatic convention "The Year of Our Lord" to establish the date of an event is not the same as an establisng principle. Your argument is specious, and pointing that out is not deflecting.
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
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If not from Christ then from where? Why not simply "The Year", or "Dated"?
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Christ is not mentioned, Christ does not enter the equation; the Blessings that are secured, are Blessings that come from Liberty--exactly as it it written.
Deflection--your turn to look it up.
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
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Its clear that it is you who is deflecting now.
If Christ is not mentioned, then who is "The Lord"?
The preamble states the reasons for drafting the Constitution include “in Order to… secure the Blessings of Liberty…” Again, who gave those Blessings?
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Progressive liberals would have you believe that the founders were learned visionaries, products of the age of Enlightenment that were truly SECULAR as they see themselves. In the year of our Lord is a good point because if you look at France during the same period the Progressive Liberals were actually there getting busy...http://www.aquinas-multimedia.com/stjoseph/history.htmlIn the autumn of A.D. 1793, the new dictatorship instituted a new calendar whose names would more closely correspond to the spirit of the time than the old Gregorian calendar which was based on the liturgical year of the Church. In line with other de-Christianizing acts—many churches had been gutted and converted to Temples of Reason, museums or other secular buildings—the names of days and months were replaced by symbols of nature and other things related to the Republic’s principles. Thus the days were given names such as Lamb’s Lettuce, Plow, Billy Goat, and Spinach; the holidays were known as Opinion Day, Labor Day, and so on.
The new system was implemented retroactively from September 22, 1792, which by coincidence was both the fall equinox and the day the French Republic was created. This calendar was observed by the French until Napolean reverted to the use of the Gregorian calendar in A.D. 1806.
Yet, in America the founders agreed to American version of the Common Law whereby a citizen, including themselves could be punished for violation of Blasphemy laws http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphe...tes_of_America.
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Nonsense. You are now grasping, hoping that the following jab at non-sequitur will save you--it will not:
"The Year of Our Lord" is an idomatic expression that helps precisely establish the date of the document; it does not make a statement of principle, it does not establish a foundation in Christ.
"Who" doesn't come into it; the Blessings that are secured, are Blessings that come from Liberty--exactly as it is written.
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
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