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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Everything about that says chair polishing staff officer. Doesn't matter. You're trying to argue with the wrong person. Milley is the one who stated he was going to commit treason over politics, not me.
    Disagree. Making sure an insane President can't overthrow the Constitution, to which Milley is sworn to protect, is the right thing.

    I am curious. Do you think Pence, who refused to follow Trump's orders on decertification of the election AND unlawfully ordered the NG to clear the Capitol, acted against the interests of the country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    Disagree. Making sure an insane President can't overthrow the Constitution, to which Milley is sworn to protect, is the right thing.

    I am curious. Do you think Pence, who refused to follow Trump's orders on decertification of the election AND unlawfully ordered the NG to clear the Capitol, acted against the interests of the country?
    Trump has not been judged insane, nor is or was it Milley's place to make that call.

    It most especially was not Milley's place to discuss any of the above with China. That's treason. Odd what you on the left consider "patriotism"

    You're taking a baseless accusation by a self-aggrandizing, political General, who is trying to sell a book, at face value and trying to run all over the place with it.

    Trump did not order Pence to decertify the results of the election. He tried to get him to not certify them to begin with. Two different processes. Afraid I haven't heard the one about trying to clear the Capitol with the National Guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Trump has not been judged insane, nor is or was it Milley's place to make that call.

    It most especially was not Milley's place to discuss any of the above with China. That's treason. Odd what you on the left consider "patriotism"

    You're taking a baseless accusation by a self-aggrandizing, political General, who is trying to sell a book, at face value and trying to run all over the place with it.

    Trump did not order Pence to decertify the results of the election. He tried to get him to not certify them to begin with. Two different processes. Afraid I haven't heard the one about trying to clear the Capitol with the National Guard.
    Milley had every right to be concerned and to ensure Trump did not interfere with the passage of government.

    You agree that Trump wanted Pence to interfere with the passage of the government.

    General Flynn, the NG commander, (Mike Flynn's brother), could not Trump to release the troops. Pence, three hours in, gave the OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    Disagree. Making sure an insane President can't overthrow the Constitution, to which Milley is sworn to protect, is the right thing.

    I am curious. Do you think Pence, who refused to follow Trump's orders on decertification of the election AND unlawfully ordered the NG to clear the Capitol, acted against the interests of the country?
    Jake comes here to talk about BIDEN as if Trump was still in office.

    As for being curious. We are all curious about you Jake...and why your PRE-SCHOOL teacher allows you to get on the CLASS, LIBERALLY CONTROLLED, OLD...TANDY KEYBOARD.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    Disagree. Making sure an insane President can't overthrow the Constitution, to which Milley is sworn to protect, is the right thing.
    I'm not sure a person who demonstrated that he doesn't know the difference between a Federal Agency and Private Industry is qualified to discuss constitutionality on any level.

    Milley was Trump's top military advisor. He had no command authority whatsoever.

    Milley circumvented the Constitutional chain-of-command and usurped it with the aid and collusion of the two leaders of the opposing political party, namely Schumer and Pelosi.

    At no time was Trump thinking about launching a surprise attack on China. And if he were, there are procedures in place - of which, Milley inserted himself into, against the Constitution and Federal Law. Milley had no authority to intervene whatsoever even if it were true.

    Milley called a secret meeting with command staff, taking from each of them what he considered an oath to obey him rather than follow orders from their lawful CinC. This is the very definition of a coup.

    Milley secretly conducted his own Foreign Policy, which he was not authorized to do. Indeed, there are Federal Laws prohibiting such conduct and the penalties are harsh.

    Milley told our major adversary that he would personally call them if an attack were imminent, violating his own oath and breaking a myriad of Federal Laws - not to mention risking the lives of countless US military personnel. Warning our enemy prior to a military encounter?


    Milley's silence is deafening. If this all were untrue, he'd be making noise and protesting. He's bunkered down, and that speaks volumes.


    I'm sure when he's hauled in front of the Senate, we'll get to the bottom of this and his treasonous actions. There are phone transcripts and I'm sure that Cruz, Kennedy, Paul, Sullivan and others will enlighten all of us as to what happened and who were involved. There will be no sliding out of this one, and I'm thinking that Schumer & Pelosi will pay a price for their role in this coup as well.

    Speaking of coup - anyone else amused that as all the moonbats were screaming about an insurrection and coup, at the very same time they were actively engaging in a legitimate one?

    I just read an article that former Sec of Defense Esper was also involved in this - after he'd been fired. Yeah, that's going to get ugly for him, too.

    The hilarious thing about this whole awful thing is that Milley himself provided all the details to Woodward, somehow thinking that he'd be hailed as a hero. I'm sure he's having second thoughts now as he realizes that he's hung himself. Good riddance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    Disagree. Making sure an insane President can't overthrow the Constitution, to which Milley is sworn to protect, is the right thing.

    I am curious. Do you think Pence, who refused to follow Trump's orders on decertification of the election AND unlawfully ordered the NG to clear the Capitol, acted against the interests of the country?
    Exactly how does nuking China represent an overthrow of the Constitution..And do show any evidence,,you,, have that Trump had that planned. Otherwise it just more of your usual childish blatherings, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Exactly how does nuking China represent an overthrow of the Constitution..And do show any evidence,,you,, have that Trump had that planned. Otherwise it just more of your usual childish blatherings, imho.
    What a goofy statement. You suffer Trump Devotion Syndrome and can't see the whole picture.

    Milley, who had informed the Acting Secretary of the Army before he made the telephone call, was ensuring the Chinese that Trump was not going to nuke them.

    Attacking me because you cannot logically excuse Trump is simply pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    What a goofy statement. You suffer Trump Devotion Syndrome and can't see the whole picture.

    Milley, who had informed the Acting Secretary of the Army before he made the telephone call, was ensuring the Chinese that Trump was not going to nuke them.

    Attacking me because you cannot logically excuse Trump is simply pathetic.

    Milley doesn't report to the Army, doofus.

    He reports directly to either SecDef or Trump. Both of whom have stated they never gave such permission.
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    There is no accountability or responsibility on the left, zero. Many are actually applauding this guy.

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    Gen. Milley must go for subverting of civilian control of the military

    In a climactic episode of the sitcom “Arrested Development,” Jeffrey Tambor’s character confesses to his son that he “may have committed some light treason.” If what was recently reported about Mark Milley is true, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is guilty of something much heavier: colluding with a foreign power against the sitting commander-in-chief.

    According to a new book by Washington Post scribes Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, Milley conducted at least two secret phone calls with top Chinese military officials while Donald Trump was still serving as president, one in October 2020, one in January 2021. Reportedly, Milley reassured the Chinese that Trump, the only US president in two decades not to start a foreign war, wasn’t on the cusp of invading. He even went so far as to vow to tip off Beijing in the case of an impending US attack.

    This was not all. Woodward and Costa also report that on Jan. 8, 2021, Milley called a secret meeting at the Pentagon during which he instructed senior military officials not to take orders from their Trump unless he (Milley) approved them.

    “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure,” Milley reportedly said. “You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure.” During the same period, Milley was also in direct contact with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, at whose direction he appears to have initiated not only the Pentagon meeting but overtures to the heads of the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency.

    Rest - https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/gen-mi...-the-military/


    Mark Milley Is A Traitor

    General Mark Milley is a disgrace to his uniform. If he had any integrity, he’d resign. He has none, and neither does his boss, so his job is safe. But he is a traitor who should be rotting in prison. Instead, he’s the toast of cable news and liberal social circles.

    Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, actively subverted the Constitution and explicitly violated his oath and attempted to subvert the chain of command in the United States while pledging to our enemy that he would give them a “heads up” if it necessary. People have been executed for less, and justifiably so.

    General Milley called Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army to reassure him that the U.S. would not make any moves against China, pretty much no matter what. This is bad enough, treasonous behavior in and of itself. But Milley went further, assuring the communist leader, “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

    Rest - https://townhall.com/columnists/dere...aitor-n2595960
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Milley doesn't report to the Army, doofus.

    He reports directly to either SecDef or Trump. Both of whom have stated they never gave such permission.

    Our little Jakkyboy does not care about that truth, that reality.
    Only thing that matters is that Milley saved the world and Trump was crazy.
    I asked for evidence that Trump was crazy and that Milley knew that to be fact.
    Jakkyboy failed to list any- because our Jakkyboy has none. Only has that serious case of Trump Derangement sundrome.
    And a severely aching need to spout dem/leftist hate filled propaganda, utter rot and childish fantasies....
    The doofus is a sadly demented but dedicated soul and on a darkened path into the abyss, imho.--Tyr
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    What a goofy statement. You suffer Trump Devotion Syndrome and can't see the whole picture.

    Milley, who had informed the Acting Secretary of the Army before he made the telephone call, was ensuring the Chinese that Trump was not going to nuke them.

    Attacking me because you cannot logically excuse Trump is simply pathetic.




    Night Train: Milley doesn't report to the Army, doofus.

    He reports directly to either SecDef or Trump. Both of whom have stated they never gave such permission.


    You are stupid, podjo. The protocol for that type of call goes through the Acting Secretary of the Army.

    You show your ass yet again.

    You attack me because you are unable to excuse the crazy man in the WH.

    Miller is now caught in a lie that he did not give permission to Milley. Night Train, just don't talk until you understand an issue.
    www.foxnews.com › politics › trump-acting-defenseTrump acting Defense Secretary Miller says he 'did not ...


    • 1 day ago · Miller went on to reference the allegations, which are included in the book "Peril," co-written by Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, that Milley made two secret phone calls ...


    • en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mark_A









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    I'm impressed with your commitment to ignorance. I'm further impressed with your lack of reading comprehension.

    So far you've been wrong 100% of the time, which is impressive even for a libtard. At least Pete was correct roughly 2.3% of the time by my calculations - although those statements were of "the sky is blue" variety. Still, those counted.

    From your own link, genius :


    Quote Originally Posted by FoxNews
    "The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the highest-ranking military officer whose sole role is providing military-specific advice to the president, and by law is prohibited from exercising executive authority to command forces," Miller said. "The chain of command runs from the President to the Secretary of Defense, not through the Chairman."

    "As secretary of defense, I did not and would not ever authorize such conduct," Miller said.


    And former chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel told Fox News that "the law governing the Joint Chiefs of Staff specifically forbids the chairman from exercising any operational command authority."


    "Congress put this in the statute because the U.S. military is to be led by a civilian, the commander-in-chief," Patel continued. "Furthermore, by law, the national command authority goes from the president to the secretary of Defense to include anything relating troop deployments, operations in theaters of war, and nuclear command."


    Patel added that if the calls with China are true, Milley "has violated the law regarding operational authority."


    "Calling a foreign counterpart and discussing operational capabilities against that enemy is literally treasonous," Patel said. "The White House, nor the Office of the Secretary of Defense authorized the chairman to conduct any calls with Chinese officials regarding operations."


    And deputy chief of staff to the Department of Defense Joe Francescon also told Fox News that it was "the policy at the time that there was no senior government engagement with China, owing to their bad acts and efforts."


    Francescon added that it was the "blanket policy at the time not to have high-level engagement with the Chinese on matters like this," and added that Miller and his office were "not told in advance of any call to the Chinese specifically."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-should-resign


    Feeling stupid yet?
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