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    OK, can anyone please explain how this pork filled political payoff bill, will create jobs and bring the economy back


    Pork Galore: Obama’s Stimulus Bill Does Little to Stimulate the Economy

    January 28th, 2009 11:25 am | by Mike Miller | Published in Activism, Big Government, Constitution, Debt, Liberty, Obama, Politics, Socialism, Taxes, congress, government spending, national debt | 2 Comments

    Beware: this post may make you ill.

    Aren’t we being told that the $850 billion so-called “stimulus” bill being discussed in Congress would be to prop up our failing economy? Forgetting for a moment the fact that economic stimulus can never work or that it’s unconstitutional, isn’t the intent of any economic stimulus bill to stimulate the failing economy?

    In reality, our new President and the Big Government Democrats and Republicans in Congress are again using this crisis as an opportunity to fund their pet project and fulfill some of their liberal/progressive agenda.

    If the goal is to stimulate the economy to alleviate the effects of the “deepening recession”, then why does the bill contain the following (which is definitely not an exhaustive list):

    $87 billion for Medicare outlays and related spending
    $20 billion toward nutrition assistance program (food stamps)
    $2.8 billion to expand broadband Internet service in rural areas
    $4 billion for programs “to develop rural communities…”

    $3 billion for grants to improve the criminal justice system
    $3 billion for grants to fund science and technology research
    $1 billion for periodic censuses and programs
    $1 billion for programs of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
    Administration
    $1 billion for the Community Oriented Policing Services program
    $2 billion for “other activities”
    $4 billion to the Department of Defense to repair, maintain, and renovate its facilities; for energy-efficiency projects, including the modernizing of heating/cooling and electrical systems; and for improving
    Army barracks
    $43.9 billion for the Department of Energy (DOE),
    $4.5 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers
    $500 million for the Bureau of Reclamation
    $8.7 billion to promote energy efficiency and conservation at federal facilities and to support small businesses
    $1.1 billion for a variety of programs administered by the Department of Homeland Security
    $8.4 billion for the Clean Water and Drinking Water State Revolving Funds (SRFs)
    $6.6 billion would fund various programs, including capital improvements and maintenance for the Forest Service and National Park Service, the Superfund program, and wildland fire management
    $20.4 billion for programs administered by the Department of Health and Human Services
    $4.6 billion for employment and training programs administered by the
    Department of Labor
    $20 billion to renovate elementary and secondary schools
    $17.6 billion for Pell grants and other student financial assistance and facilities at post-secondary institutions including federal student loan programs
    $29.1 billon for other education programs aimed particularly at elementary and secondary education
    $6.0 billion for military construction projects of the Department of Defense
    $1 billion for the Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) to maintain and repair VA medical facilities and cemeteries
    $276 million would be provided to the Capital Investment Fund for specific information-technology (IT) projects
    $224 million would be provided for construction requirements of the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico
    $30 billion for highway construction
    $13.1 billion for other transportation programs administered by DOT
    $11.2 billion for housing assistance programs administered by HUD
    $5.2 billion for grants to states and cities for activities related to community development
    $41.2 billion per year for 10 highway programs at the state and local level
    $10.4 billion per year for transit programs at the state and local level
    $39.5 billion available to states each twice a year to help them balance their books
    $7.5 billion in each year would be reserved for incentive grants to be given to states on a competitive basis in fiscal year 2010, based on states meeting specified criteria in how they spent their initial allocations
    $2.3 billion “emergency” spending for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program
    a variety of tax credits for desired behavior
    additional unemployment benefits


    http://libertymaven.com/2009/01/28/p...-economy/4159/


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    dollars injected into the economy create economic activity. pure and simple. economic activity creates demand for goods and services which need to be produced and paid for... jobs...economic activity... wages... wages spent in the economy... more economic activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    dollars injected into the economy create economic activity. pure and simple. economic activity creates demand for goods and services which need to be produced and paid for... jobs...economic activity... wages... wages spent in the economy... more economic activity.
    This bill is nearly 1/3 of the entire annual Federa; budget. Add at leat $1 trillion to the annual deficit

    Most of the pork will not create jobs, will not increase economic activity

    It will bring inflation back, and will cause more economic harm

    and the %45 billion to ACORN is most insane pork. A huge political payoff


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    BTW, IF this bill "creates" 4 million jobs (as Obama promised) it will cost the taxpayers $230,000 per job


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    OMG - Even Chris Matthews is asking questions about the pork in the bill and where the jobs are


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    BTW, IF this bill "creates" 4 million jobs (as Obama promised) it will cost the taxpayers $230,000 per job

    Ooh, wonder how I can get one of those jobs. Could use a raise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    BTW, IF this bill "creates" 4 million jobs (as Obama promised) it will cost the taxpayers $230,000 per job

    Ooh, wonder how I can get one of those jobs. Could use a raise!
    The $230,000 is not the salary of the job - it is what it will cost the taxpayer


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    Yes, I know. I was being sarcastic there.

    Hey, how do I get an avatar to show up? I keep trying to load up various pictures in the control panel of different sizes, but they never show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    Yes, I know. I was being sarcastic there.

    Hey, how do I get an avatar to show up? I keep trying to load up various pictures in the control panel of different sizes, but they never show.
    Click on User CP

    Drop down to edit avatar

    You will see the options


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    cool, didn't realize edit profile picture was a different setting than edit avatar. Just didn't look down the list far enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    cool, didn't realize edit profile picture was a different setting than edit avatar. Just didn't look down the list far enough.
    Glad you found it - nice pic!


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    Since not a single Republican voted for mega pork bill, the liberal media is miffed and attacking Republicans


    ABC & CBS Chide Republicans for 'Turning Cold Shoulder' to Obama
    By Brent Baker (Bio | Archive)
    January 29, 2009 - 09:06 ET

    Shortly after the House on Wednesday passed President Barack Obama's $825 billion “stimulus” package, ABC and CBS commiserated with Obama over his unsuccessful efforts to woo Republican votes. “Not one Republican voted for it,” ABC anchor Charles Gibson announced on World News with “Rescue Plan” as the on-screen heading, “turning a cold shoulder to the President's appeal for bipartisan support.” Reporter Jonathan Karl fretted: “So much for the President's charm offensive. Today it was all partisan rancor and name-calling.”

    CBS reporter Chip Reid related how “the White House says this is a victory for the President, but certainly there is also some disappointment that he worked so hard to get bipartisan support and couldn't get a single Republican vote.” Reid soon chafed over how “Republicans relentlessly attacked the bill despite the President's extraordinary efforts to get bipartisan support.” Katie Couric noted how “the President went up to the Hill to personally appeal to Republicans already,” so, she pleaded, “what more can he do?”

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-b...shoulder-obama


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    This bill is nearly 1/3 of the entire annual Federa; budget. Add at leat $1 trillion to the annual deficit

    Most of the pork will not create jobs, will not increase economic activity

    It will bring inflation back, and will cause more economic harm

    and the %45 billion to ACORN is most insane pork. A huge political payoff
    government spending always creates economic activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    government spending always creates economic activity.
    Then why didn't the economy do better over the last 2 years when Dems increased the pork and spending?


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    230,000

    yes we can, fuck it up more



    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    BTW, IF this bill "creates" 4 million jobs (as Obama promised) it will cost the taxpayers $230,000 per job

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