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    Default Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed

    From none other then the DNC Times. When you talk to your enemies it must be from a position of strength

    Obama is a babe in the woods and is not up to playing in the big leagues



    Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed


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    Senior American statesmen like George Kennan advised Kennedy not to rush into a high-level meeting, arguing that Khrushchev had engaged in anti-American propaganda and that the issues at hand could as well be addressed by lower-level diplomats. Kennedy’s own secretary of state, Dean Rusk, had argued much the same in a Foreign Affairs article the previous year: “Is it wise to gamble so heavily? Are not these two men who should be kept apart until others have found a sure meeting ground of accommodation between them?”

    But Kennedy went ahead, and for two days he was pummeled by the Soviet leader. Despite his eloquence, Kennedy was no match as a sparring partner, and offered only token resistance as Khrushchev lectured him on the hypocrisy of American foreign policy, cautioned America against supporting “old, moribund, reactionary regimes” and asserted that the United States, which had valiantly risen against the British, now stood “against other peoples following its suit.” Khrushchev used the opportunity of a face-to-face meeting to warn Kennedy that his country could not be intimidated and that it was “very unwise” for the United States to surround the Soviet Union with military bases.

    Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was “just a disaster.” Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” The Soviet leader left Vienna elated — and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/op...in&oref=slogin


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    I just can't feature Osama in a crisis like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    I just can't feature Osama in a crisis like that.
    He would be on the phone asking for poll and focus group results on what he should do

    Then he goes tot he UN and asks for a resoultion denouncing the action


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    He would be on the phone asking for poll and focus group results on what he should do

    Then he goes tot he UN and asks for a resoultion denouncing the action
    and the phone would melt in his shaky hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    and the phone would melt in his shaky hands.
    or Michelle is on the line cussing out Fox News for reporting hubby's inaction, and Barry can't free up the line


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    and Osama telling Michelle " stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass good bye" !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    and Osama telling Michelle " stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass good bye" !!!!!!!
    There last words will be "Damn Bush. He is to blame for this"


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    There last words will be "Damn Bush. He is to blame for this"
    "Damn Bush. He is to...........................


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    From none other then the DNC Times. When you talk to your enemies it must be from a position of strength

    Obama is a babe in the woods and is not up to playing in the big leagues



    Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed


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    Senior American statesmen like George Kennan advised Kennedy not to rush into a high-level meeting, arguing that Khrushchev had engaged in anti-American propaganda and that the issues at hand could as well be addressed by lower-level diplomats. Kennedy’s own secretary of state, Dean Rusk, had argued much the same in a Foreign Affairs article the previous year: “Is it wise to gamble so heavily? Are not these two men who should be kept apart until others have found a sure meeting ground of accommodation between them?”

    But Kennedy went ahead, and for two days he was pummeled by the Soviet leader. Despite his eloquence, Kennedy was no match as a sparring partner, and offered only token resistance as Khrushchev lectured him on the hypocrisy of American foreign policy, cautioned America against supporting “old, moribund, reactionary regimes” and asserted that the United States, which had valiantly risen against the British, now stood “against other peoples following its suit.” Khrushchev used the opportunity of a face-to-face meeting to warn Kennedy that his country could not be intimidated and that it was “very unwise” for the United States to surround the Soviet Union with military bases.

    Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was “just a disaster.” Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” The Soviet leader left Vienna elated — and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/op...in&oref=slogin
    And the Soviet Union collapsed...some victory.
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    Bottom line - Obama is a rookie and will get walked over by Amercia's enemies

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    And the Soviet Union collapsed...some victory.
    Thanks to Pres Ronald Reagan

    And Democrats were against all of Pres Reagan's methods. I remember them screaming how he was going to start WWIII - now they try and rewrite history to cover the asses

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    I just can't feature Obama in a crisis like that.
    I can, he's the new Kennedy....inexperienced and weak....Bay of Pigs, Vietnam.....
    Last edited by PostmodernProphet; 05-24-2008 at 03:38 PM.
    ...full immersion.....

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    Kennedy did save us all in the cuban missile crisis. the world was close to being on the brink. and the commies blinked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    Kennedy did save us all in the cuban missile crisis. the world was close to being on the brink. and the commies blinked.
    I'll agree, he got us out of a crisis he'd created by the Bay of Pigs. He was learning though, give him that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I'll agree, he got us out of a crisis he'd created by the Bay of Pigs. He was learning though, give him that.
    agreed. he scared the crap out of Castro with that invasion. so Castro screamed for help from Moscow. and fuse was lit !!!!!

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