Coach Joe Paterno has died

[OCA]

SO you're saying he did his job? He reported some hearsay? Whoop. That and a cup of coffee will get you heartburn in a court of law.

Hearsay? Are you serious? Gunster you might be the only person in America who believes that with all the other multitude of incidents and people coming forth about this dirtbag, that he might be innocent.

Joepa is at the VERY least guilty of bad judgement.

[OCA]

I'm pretty sure the grand jury has already provided enough factual evidence. The regular trial will be merely a formality at this point.

[Gunny]

I'm pretty sure the grand jury has already provided enough factual evidence. The regular trial will be merely a formality at this point.

You're rushing to judgment based on assumption. I've watched trial after trial on tv and documentaries and seen PLENTY of that crap, and people put in prison based on nothing more than emotional, knee-jerk reaction.

Oh, and Joe Paterno was not on trial. But maybe they can hang his real body in place of an effigy for you.

[OCA]

You're rushing to judgment based on assumption. I've watched trial after trial on tv and documentaries and seen PLENTY of that crap, and people put in prison based on nothing more than emotional, knee-jerk reaction.

Oh, and Joe Paterno was not on trial. But maybe they can hang his real body in place of an effigy for you.

WOW! You are serious, ok.

[Sir Evil]

The man was a coaching legend and was not the offender, he's dead now and at minimal should be given at least a day of respect.

[OCA]

The man was a coaching legend and was not the offender, he's dead now and at minimal should be given at least a day of respect.

Alright Evil, nobody said he was the offender, maybe enabler but not offender. Nothing more from me until later on.

[Gunny]

WOW! You are serious, ok.

I am. I have a BIG issue with people being convicted in other's minds BEFORE the fact. I have an issue with people being convicted based on emotional knee-jerk reactions, and I have a problem with people being convicted when the evidence doesn't support the conviction; rather, some theory the prosecution comes up with that they can weave the little bit of disjointed facts into.

That's NOT how it's supposed to work.

[Sir Evil]

Alright Evil, nobody said he was the offender, maybe enabler but not offender. Nothing more from me until later on.

I was suggesting offender in reference to the fact that he has just passed and should be given his moment of respect before people start guessing his involvment in something he was not the guilty party of.

[OCA]

I am. I have a BIG issue with people being convicted in other's minds BEFORE the fact. I have an issue with people being convicted based on emotional knee-jerk reactions, and I have a problem with people being convicted when the evidence doesn't support the conviction; rather, some theory the prosecution comes up with that they can weave the little bit of disjointed facts into.

That's NOT how it's supposed to work.

So you are saying the grand jury testimony and all the eyewitness accounts do not support that he be brought to trial? And these were not all accounts of the young boys either, there were other witnesses as well.................not the least of all............his wife.

Weaving a story? Come on Gunny, let me ask you this, if you had a 11 or 12 yr old son now would you send him to a summer camp Sandusky was participating in?

[jimnyc]

Hearsay? Are you serious? Gunster you might be the only person in America who believes that with all the other multitude of incidents and people coming forth about this dirtbag, that he might be innocent.

Joepa is at the VERY least guilty of bad judgement.

So you are saying the grand jury testimony and all the eyewitness accounts do not support that he be brought to trial? And these were not all accounts of the young boys either, there were other witnesses as well.................not the least of all............his wife.

Weaving a story? Come on Gunny, let me ask you this, if you had a 11 or 12 yr old son now would you send him to a summer camp Sandusky was participating in?

I could be wrong, but I believe Gunny thinks you were referring to Coach Joe. Coach Joe was not charged, and was only involved in GJ testimony against Sandusky.

[OCA]

I could be wrong, but I believe Gunny thinks you were referring to Coach Joe. Coach Joe was not charged, and was only involved in GJ testimony against Sandusky.

I think though, and this is the reason the A.D. was charged too, that had Joe not passed today(R.I.P.), further investigation beyond the sexual abuse allegations would've revealed a cover up on the part of the university and that Joepa was involved. There was no way he would not have known, Joepa was bigger than the fucking governor.

[Gunny]

So you are saying the grand jury testimony and all the eyewitness accounts do not support that he be brought to trial? And these were not all accounts of the young boys either, there were other witnesses as well.................not the least of all............his wife.

Weaving a story? Come on Gunny, let me ask you this, if you had a 11 or 12 yr old son now would you send him to a summer camp Sandusky was participating in?

Ummm .... last I checked, this thread is about Joe Paterno passing away? He's the only person I am speaking of.

Sandusky would be another topic entirely.

[jimnyc]

I think though, and this is the reason the A.D. was charged too, that had Joe not passed today(R.I.P.), further investigation beyond the sexual abuse allegations would've revealed a cover up on the part of the university and that Joepa was involved. There was no way he would not have known, Joepa was bigger than the fucking governor.

If JoePa wanted to "cover it up", he wouldn't have reported it to authorities as he was supposed to do. He also wouldn't have given an honest accounting of things when with the grand jury. He tol it as he knew it, and just how McQueary reportedly told him. He may not have been as "proactive" as some would have liked, morally speaking, but I see nothing at all to show he lied or tried to cover anything up.

Quite frankly, and I know no one intended it this way - but I think "judging" this man and making unfounded accusations on the day he dies is in poor taste. He wasn't a Saint, but he was to PSU football and has earned his stripes as a coach. He shouldn't be disrespected and treated like a criminal when he didn't break any laws.

[OCA]

If JoePa wanted to "cover it up", he wouldn't have reported it to authorities as he was supposed to do. He also wouldn't have given an honest accounting of things when with the grand jury. He tol it as he knew it, and just how McQueary reportedly told him. He may not have been as "proactive" as some would have liked, morally speaking, but I see nothing at all to show he lied or tried to cover anything up.

Quite frankly, and I know no one intended it this way - but I think "judging" this man and making unfounded accusations on the day he dies is in poor taste. He wasn't a Saint, but he was to PSU football and has earned his stripes as a coach. He shouldn't be disrespected and treated like a criminal when he didn't break any laws.

Well you are right but tell me, when would be an appropriate time to discuss it?

[ConHog]

Well you are right but tell me, when would be an appropriate time to discuss it?

One week from today. That is the standard grieving period. After that we can discuss his role in the Sandusky thing.

I would ask the threads discussing such be locked for that time, and that this one be left open only as a place for those who wish to to grieve the guy.

In either case, I personally won't be commenting in the other threads about what happened at PSU for one week.