Working with Anger

[Wind Song]

So you say Live and let live" is all fine and dandy until you have some drunken idiot shooting up the neighborhood.

But you think a simple "check" of someone's past would stop this? They already have holds on weapons and checks when someone tries to purchase a gun.

They don't screen for substance abuse. I think they should.

[jimnyc]

They don't screen for substance abuse. I think they should.

So all these people "shooting up neighborhoods" are on drugs or drinking?

[ConHog]

So you say Live and let live" is all fine and dandy until you have some drunken idiot shooting up the neighborhood.

But you think a simple "check" of someone's past would stop this? They already have holds on weapons and checks when someone tries to purchase a gun.

I actually think a CAT scan should be added to the requirements for a carry permit. I don't care what someone has in their own home, but we do have the right to make sure mentally defective people aren't carrying weapons around in public. And yes, people who are undergoing treatment for drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and obviously anyone who has been convicted of any sort of crime especially domestic violence should be prevented from carrying a weapon. But THOSE things are already covered which Sky would know if she weren't so adverse to facts.

[ConHog]

They don't screen for substance abuse. I think they should.

the problem is who defines abuse? I have a feeling that you would draw a pretty tight line in order to exclude as many people as possible. Who decides what constitutes abuse?

[Wind Song]

So all these people "shooting up neighborhoods" are on drugs or drinking?

I'm not talking about "all these people" I'm talking about what happened in MY neighborhood. Two incidents of drunks shooting guns while enraged.

[darin]

My answer to my own fear? Learn to communicate non-violently with angry people. Face my fears, but be kind and admit when I'm triggered. Turn toward that place that is afraid and keep it company.

Take care of my own needs.

I am committed to non-violence.

Wha? maybe that's good - at least you're admitting you are a chicken shit.

I am committed to use violence to save the weak from evil.

[Wind Song]

the problem is who defines abuse? I have a feeling that you would draw a pretty tight line in order to exclude as many people as possible. Who decides what constitutes abuse?

We don't allow people to drive drunk in our country. Why should we allow drunks gun rights?

[Wind Song]

Wha? maybe that's good - at least you're admitting you are a chicken shit.

I am committed to use violence to save the weak from evil.

I'm opposed to violence for a number of reasons. My religion, my professional experience and my own life experience. I completely acknowledge my fear and take responsibility for it.

[ConHog]

We don't allow people to drive drunk in our country. Why should we allow drunks gun rights?

hey Ding Dong guess what? Alcoholics are allowed to drive in this country as long as they are sober. Guess what , carrying a weapon while inebriated is ILLEGAL under current law in EVERY jurisdiction.

If a drunk gets so many DUIs they will take his/her license for good. Guess what , if a person has so many gun related incidents that include alcohol they will also lose their right to own guns. In EVERY jurisdiction.

Oh, and FINALLY possession of weapons and narcotics at the same time is a FELONY under FEDERAL law. So drugs and guns mixed is a one strike you're out deal.

[Wind Song]

hey Ding Dong guess what? Alcoholics are allowed to drive in this country as long as they are sober. Guess what , carrying a weapon while inebriated is ILLEGAL under current law in EVERY jurisdiction.

If a drunk gets so many DUIs they will take his/her license for good. Guess what , if a person has so many gun related incidents that include alcohol they will also lose their right to own guns. In EVERY jurisdiction.

Oh, and FINALLY possession of weapons and narcotics at the same time is a FELONY under FEDERAL law. So drugs and guns mixed is a one strike you're out deal.

Bye Con.

I'll talk to you again when you've decided to be civil.

[ConHog]

Bye Con.

I'll talk to you again when you've decided to be civil.

If I just got my ass handed to me the way I served yours up I'd probably leave to.

[Wind Song]

More violent speech from Conhog.

[jimnyc]

More violent speech from Conhog.

May not be what you like to read, but it wasn't "violent".

[ConHog]

More violent speech from Conhog.

So using sports metaphors is violent speech? LOL

[Wind Song]

May not be what you like to read, but it wasn't "violent".

What that phrase means is having the shit beat out of you and being mocked for it.