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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    By ignoring the constitution, we'll bring it back...
    You mean to tell me you've never broke a law in protest of that law not being strictly enforced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    They won't do so. They would reject the order as illegal and refuse.


    The National Guard IS exempt from Posse Commitataus , but that changes the moment they become federalized. So once again, IF Obama took control of the Texas National Guard and ordered them into a police action in the US that order would be ILLEGAL.

    On the other hand Texas can activate their own national guard and use them in a police action. Just an odd quirk of that law.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe congress can sanction such actions, just not be pres alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    You mean to tell me you've never broke a law in protest of that law not being strictly enforced?
    Ill try that if i ever get another speeding ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe congress can sanction such actions, just not be pres alone.
    Correct, the law allows for their use IF the President requests it and Congress approves. The ONLY federal branch of the military that exempt from this is the Coast Guard.

    It's an odd quirk of why even though the task force I worked on had federal agents , we were a state operated task force, otherwise the national guard could not have participated. One of those rare times when federal agents are actually under state jurisdiction.

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    Had a fed buddy of mine stop by today and he's currently working a Texas border town. He said the corruption is so rampant that he literally feels like he's working a foreign land. The populus, judges, cops... the whole nine. Gotta wonder why martial law isn't declared there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Had a fed buddy of mine stop by today and he's currently working a Texas border town. He said the corruption is so rampant that he literally feels like he's working a foreign land. The populus, judges, cops... the whole nine. Gotta wonder why martial law isn't declared there.
    I was on the border for about 4 months in 06. it's lawless. Just ridiculous. THere is a federal park in AZ that actually is closed and the sign actually says due to illegal aliens and crime activity the us bureau of parks and recreation is not allowing US citizens to use the park (that info may be a little outdated now)

    now why in the fuck is the national guard not in there taking care of that shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    I was on the border for about 4 months in 06. it's lawless. Just ridiculous. THere is a federal park in AZ that actually is closed and the sign actually says due to illegal aliens and crime activity the us bureau of parks and recreation is not allowing US citizens to use the park (that info may be a little outdated now)

    now why in the fuck is the national guard not in there taking care of that shit?
    Maybe because they're not using military style weapons to kill kids. Then it'll be top priority nationwide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Maybe because they're not using military style weapons to kill kids. Then it'll be top priority nationwide.
    Maybe we should start calling them rampage coyotes and ban them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Maybe we should start calling them rampage coyotes and ban them.
    acme corp will assuredly be mounting a defense campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    acme corp will assuredly be mounting a defense campaign.
    you know what I never could ever figure out about old Wile E? If that sumbitch could afford all that Acme shit, why didn't he just take his happy ass on down to the local restaurant and order off the menu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    you know what I never could ever figure out about old Wile E? If that sumbitch could afford all that Acme shit, why didn't he just take his happy ass on down to the local restaurant and order off the menu?
    Principles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Principles?
    Don't be stupid, he was a liberal. Obviously therefor he had no principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Don't be stupid, he was a liberal. Obviously therefor he had no principles.
    Wile e coyote a liberal? I don't think acme takes EBT cards...check and mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Interesting link, very informative and clearly shows the dangers of Executive Orders. Especially those already put into play during obama's first term.
    Previous to the listing of those Executive Orders was a very good explanation of how limited E.O'S WERE FIRST INTENDED TO BE AND HOW OBAMA HAS EXPANDED THEM AND THUS GRABBED SO MUCH POWER!-Tyr
    Why are you claiming how BO has "expanded and grabbed" by showing examples from 50 years ago? I'll ignore the claim of EOs first intention when some claim here that they are unconstitutional from the get go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I never heard that. I've heard some try to claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an EO, which it wasn't, but even with that, it only 'freed' the slaves in the areas the Union didn't control. Please, a link to what you are referring to.
    Once again the teacher takes the uninformed student to school. Nicely done Kat


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