Taliban trade U.S. Soldier for 5 in Gitmo

[aboutime]

The accusations of 'swift boating' will go nowhere, because there are letters and notes from Bergdahl himself as to what his intentions were.

But it'll be funny to watch the knuckleheads try to run with it.

NightTrain. Obama even has SecDef Hagle repeating the OBAMA LIES.

Using that line "We never leave any soldier behind" is just CRAP. That' when a WAR ends, or fighting ends in certain operations.
OBAMA will use ANY EXCUSE they can repeat OFTEN ENOUGH, until the UNINFORMED believe it.

[fj1200]

my , my how Clintonian

The meaning of is... is?

Now I've seen it all...

I didn't think I'd get more than "scary guys I don't like" from you two.

[fj1200]

What a ridiculous answer.

I asked you to name the 'more than 5 higher up Nazis' you'd apparently had in mind.

You replied by NOT naming any such Nazis, as requested. Instead, you post a link to your PBS, leading to a transcript I'm supposed to wade through, which, as my skimming of it shows, does NOT produce those 'more than 5' names.

If you think it does, LIST THEM IN YOUR REPLY.

As for what I noted at the end of the transcript ... I quote ....

ONE.

You do realize that what you quoted was merely a comment to the transcript and not from the actual transcript don't you? This part would actually be relevant to the discussion:

NARRATORIn the end, the British chose to protect their new methods for the coming cold war – even at the expense of justice.
Not one of Trent Park’s prisoners was ever convicted of a single war crime on the basis of what they said while imprisoned.
END

Besides, you asked for names and I gave you names and far more. Keep the change.

And you've yet to prove your case in any event.

Proven. If you'll admit to it.

[fj1200]

I found it a bit strange for fj to be asking.. The concept that any American needs a definition of word TERRORIST is an alarming one.
So I thought maybe it was just a "Clintonian" response but even that had me baffled... -Tyr

Seems to me that a 'Clintonian' response best belongs in that era, Tyr.

It's amusing that you two are befuddled by a simple question. But any time I can get you two running into each others arms I find heartwarming.

[Drummond]

You do realize that what you quoted was merely a comment to the transcript and not from the actual transcript don't you?

Certainly. I was being generous.

This part would actually be relevant to the discussion:

.. and it's less than definitive. Do we have an exact number of those involved ? And .. 'on the basis of what they said while imprisoned.' .. may suggest that other action was taken on another basis.

Show me that I am wrong.

Besides, you asked for names and I gave you names and far more. Keep the change.

I asked you for a list of those names. No list has been provided.

Which is understandable, given your inability to supply a clear-cut case.

By the way, FJ, congratulations on hijacking another thread .....

[Drummond]

It's amusing that you two are befuddled by a simple question.

I do admit to being 'befuddled' by the sanity of the question, and for the reasons already mentioned.

How is it that you could ever need any answer ?

Are you telling me that you could've witnessed the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers, watched the deaths it caused (and whether you were there in NY or not, you must know what happened that day, and seen footage ?), yet be incapable of forming any opinion on what the perpetrators were ???

[aboutime]

http://news.yahoo.com/idaho-hometown...9T4QYAFcDQtDMD

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://news.yahoo.com/idaho-hometown...9T4QYAFcDQtDMD

A firing squad would have been a proper welcome IMHO!!!
Just like the King of Scammers to sell dearly our Nation's honor to bring back a deserter, traitor and enemy collaborator!!!
Both are cut from the same dirty cloth...-Tyr

[fj1200]

Certainly. I was being generous.

.. and it's less than definitive. Do we have an exact number of those involved ? And .. 'on the basis of what they said while imprisoned.' .. may suggest that other action was taken on another basis.

Show me that I am wrong.

I asked you for a list of those names. No list has been provided.

Which is understandable, given your inability to supply a clear-cut case.

Oh geez.

"I liked to shoot women pushing prams": Secret Nazi tapes shocking Germany

IT wasn’t their fault, has been the lame excuse. Ordinary German soldiers had nothing to do with the atrocities committed by Hitler and his hardcore Nazi henchmen.But now a disturbing – and at times *horrifyingly graphic – new book has laid to rest the myth that only the likes of the SS and Gestapo were responsible for war crimes and acts of rape, murder and genocide.

Do you want more? Perhaps this will help you out:

Trent Park Nazis

Which link do you like? BBC? Mirror? Daily Mail? Which one isn't a leftie rag where you can't ignore what I've pointed out to you?

By the way, FJ, congratulations on hijacking another thread .....

Your dumbF'ery is what hijacked this thing. Your denial of the obvious.

[fj1200]

I do admit to being 'befuddled' by the sanity of the question, and for the reasons already mentioned.

How is it that you could ever need any answer ?

Are you telling me that you could've witnessed the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers, watched the deaths it caused (and whether you were there in NY or not, you must know what happened that day, and seen footage ?), yet be incapable of forming any opinion on what the perpetrators were ???

Befuddled is how you spend every day proven by your being confused by questions. Now that you've at least laid down a benchmark link the 5 Taliban to 9/11.

[Drummond]

Oh geez.

"I liked to shoot women pushing prams": Secret Nazi tapes shocking Germany
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Do you want more? Perhaps this will help you out:

Trent Park Nazis

Which link do you like? BBC? Mirror? Daily Mail? Which one isn't a leftie rag where you can't ignore what I've pointed out to you?

Your dumbF'ery is what hijacked this thing. Your denial of the obvious.

... h'm. Focus never was your strong point, FJ.

The title of this thread is .. 'TALIBAN TRADE US SOLDIER FOR 5 IN GITMO'. You, however, have tried to divert it into discussion about WWII, the behaviour of the British of the time with regard to one aspect of it, and that war's aftermath.

Also: ...

The Brits released more than 5 higher up Nazi's with damning evidence of their war crimes and the unfolding realization of the holocaust yet they were released without using the evidence obtained in charges against them.

.. an earlier post of yours, with you, now, wandering off of the terms of your own diversion !!

I've asked you to provide a list of names of those 'more than 5 higher up Nazi's'. Repeatedly. Instead, you now keep banging on - with NO obvious connection to the real reason for this thread !!! - about Nazi atrocities.

I take it that you cannot provide the list I asked for. I also take it that your enthusiasm for thread hijacks is remaining undiminished.

You seem familiar with the UK's more Left wing media sources, FJ. The BBC - this professes neutrality, though their OWN commissioned review found 'institutionalised liberalism' in the BBC, and they regularly prove the point to this day (... do you know, the BBC's domestic output only started mentioning Bergdahl's questionable service record around 12 hours ago ... up to now, it's been a straightforward 'prisoner swap' story, with Taliban-shot footage of Bergdahl's handover played at least twice hourly !!).

As for the Daily Mirror, congratulations. It's a Left wing tabloid at the 'trashy' end of the market, it ALWAYS supports the Labour Party, was virulently anti-Thatcher, and their vitriol against GW Bush around 2003-2004 had to be seen to be believed.

The Daily Mail. Congratulations, you finally found one - that paper is right-wing. Successfully so, given the Left's scorn against it. Since you're so fond of 'history muckraking' reports, you'll enjoy the fact of the Mail doing articles on Ed Miliband's father's Communist-sympathies (Miliband is the current Labour Party leader ... who angrily demanded that the Mail cease publishing its revelations .. he tried to pressure them into silence).

You could have picked the Times. The Telegraph. The Daily Express. The Sun ... all of them at least relatively Right-wing. Instead, 2 of the 3 you DID pick were Left-oriented media outlets.

- Remarkable, that.

Who suggests your sources to you, FJ ? Or ... is it that your natural media gravitations are being revealed ?

Well done, FJ.

[Jeff]

The father was a real hero as well and the worst part Obama knew about these things before he decided to make the trade,the father had tweeted how he is trying to get all prisoners released from Gitmo, he sounds like instead of the WH having a press conference the media maybe should of been told of the arrest of the father.


http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/vi...sg_share_video

[jimnyc]

^^ Merged the above post into this one - and I hope others will watch it. It sure does raise a lot of questions.

[jimnyc]

Here's the embedded version. While not a professional video, it seems they cover most and are basing this video on the facts coming out.

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/f_Uj4tTRqh4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Drummond]

Now that you've at least laid down a benchmark link the 5 Taliban to 9/11.

I can only sympathise with your confused state of mind. Since you've yet to comprehend what a terrorist IS .. and need to ask !!! .. of course, not even the most tenuous link between the Taliban and 9/11 will have crossed your mind.

Then again, perhaps I can help you. I'll try, anyway ...

The Taliban - back in 2001 - were hosts to Al Qaeda. In the territories the Taliban controlled, they allowed (and obviously approved of) Al Qaeda terrorist training camps to be run.

It's a well known fact that the terrorism culminating in 9/11 came from Al Qaeda, who in those days were centrally based in Afghanistan (before the US bombed the hell out of them, forcing Al Q to decentralise).

The five released Taliban detainees are said to be senior figures within the Taliban, I believe. Now ... with the Obama-led troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the failure to see to it that the Taliban is defeated, and those senior five rejoining their organisation ... what does the future hold ?

Maybe, a couple of years down the line, the world will see '9/11#2', courtesy of - in part - of renewed help given to Al Q by a resurgent Taliban ??

Is this giving you pause for thought, FJ ?

Perhaps not ...